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Really, what do they expect? Mental Healthcare is more or less nonexistent everywhere he goes.

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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 52 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He calls them his pokemon. It's sick.

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 21 points 10 months ago

Gotta catch 'em all, indeed.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 31 points 10 months ago (5 children)

a star trek horror movie... hmmmm ...... thats a deep, dark well of material i think i would want to avoid.

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think you could make a good star trek horror movie in keeping with roddenberry's vision of star trek, while also being genuinely scary.

In some distant future when a Hologram control computer can give you any type of media imaginable to within a 9.37% margin of error using available sources, and watch a Tarantino directed Star Trek, or if you wanted for some reason, a star trek directed by Tommy Wiseau.

[–] worldsayshi@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I think Black mirror did an episode on this? Don't remember the plot though.

[–] Graphy@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Obvious spoilers, but the plot was like a nerdy-bullied gaming CEO would digitally clone his coworkers into a Star Trek bridge simulation where he would abuse them.

The digital clones had all their real memories and knew they were cloned into the game but had to play the part of a Star Trek crew going on adventures or be tortured.

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Futurama spoilers

This is eerily similar to the episode "Where No Fan Has Gone Before"

Star Trek TOS superfan kidnaps the crew is the enterprise and Planet Express and makes them perform, or else....

[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Ah, that was a great episode!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Daystrom Station part of Picard did horror pretty well.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i have not watched the picard series yet, but all indications show it to be darker material. would you agree?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Definitely, but I also think that season 1 is only okay and season 2 is pretty mediocre, so the only season I really liked was season 3.

[–] Snowcano@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

‘Mediocre’ is being extremely generous to Season 2.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think it had its moments here and there, but it really pissed me off that it acted like Time's Arrow never happened.

[–] swab148a@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 10 months ago

The only part I hate about season 3 is that Paramount+ doesn't let you skip the intro or credits >:3

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What? "The Haunting of Deck 12" would like a word

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

i was thinkin more obrien & keiko getting lost in a black mirror/saw kind of situation where keiko has to cut out their unborn child with worfs foreskin to survive. more 'horror' less 'scary'.

edit: for the record, i didnt want to go there. he made me do it

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

A tale as old as time

[–] fogstormberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago

I wish you hadnt

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

... or why didn't some psychopathic Admiral decide to take the technology and crew an entire rogue starship with nothing by cloned Picards or a dozen ships all crewed by duplicated Datas or an army of cloned Worfs

If the transporter system is capable of disassembling someone or something at the molecular level .. doesn't that mean it would be capable of making a copy? There have been plenty of episodes where there were 'accidents' and duplicates were created. So it means that the system is capable of being programmed to make multiple copies if they wanted to.

And if that were the case, someone somewhere would have weaponized this technology. It's like the period when we all discovered digital music and duplication software and hardware became available, all of sudden we could duplicate any digital media we wanted and it went wild for a while. I'm pretty sure out of the billions of people and species that would have had access to this technology, one of them or a few of them would have put two and two together and figured out that it could create clones and duplicates. It would turn into a great weapon for someone with a maniacal plan.

[–] schema@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Not gonna lie. If transporters were real, I would have transporter psychosis just like Barkley. The thought of essentially seizing to exist and being put back together just sounds horrendous to me.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I'm with Bones on this one. The transporter kills you. If we have any sense of soul, or anything beyond the patterns in our biological computer brain, then the transporter kills that, and a facsimile of you is reconstructed on the other end. So you as a physical being still exists, but the ghost in the shell is destroyed. The Federation in Star Trek is full of soulless copies, and the only real people left are the minorities like Bones and Barkley.

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If the soul is real, it just moves to the new body. Why would something that would presumably persist after death not?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I would assume that at the moment it is severed from the body, it goes on to whatever the next plane of existence is.

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

Where the guys up there immediately boot it back cause the body is still moving.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

The very first Star Trek novel dealt with the issue. Spock Must Die! by James Blish. I read it years ago and enjoyed it a lot.

[–] BoxerDevil@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] HeapOfDogs@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago
[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you have a body's worth of leftover molecules, what's to stop him from just pressing ctrl+v again? Which one would then get the soul?

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[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

"Ensign, the logs seem to indicate that after Dr Crusher returned from the planet, two additional materilizations happened with modifications. Do you know anything about this?"

"N-no. Don't go to the holodeck"

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

He decided to leave them all there when he transferred to DS9. Just lingering in the buffer until the ship is decommissioned.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

All 224 Picards, 344 Datas, 345 Rikers, 567 Laforges, 78 Worfs, 2 Barkleys and 3,504 extra O'Briens .... and a few random mashups just to give whoever decides to reanimate them a laugh.

They're still sitting in his favorite transporter room...

[–] Unsmooth7439@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

ERROR: CANNOT YELL KHAN INSIDE PATTERN BUFFER.

[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets containment again

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is a person caught in a transporter buffer aware of anything? Does time just stand still for them as they've been broken down into whatever it is they're existing as (energy)? Or are they caught in some sort of eternal hell waiting to be transported. I feel like this was the plot for a TNG episode at some point and maybe they're not aware of time when they're caught in it.

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In one episode, Scotty and another crewman were intentionally caught in the buffers to save themselves for something like 80 years, and in that time the patterns had degraded enough that the other crewman couldn't be saved.

It's been awhile since I've watched it, but that was the gist.

They don't have awareness IIRC

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Didn't the transporter monsters / crew that Barclay saved have awareness? I'm sure they were trying to get out by grabbing people in the transporter stream.

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

In that they treknobabble it with "plasma streamers" and "ionization" and some kind of energy microbes, but the worm things were crew members from the Yosemite.

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I know they were the crew, but what I mean is, weren't they actively trying to get out of the transporter stream, suggesting that they were aware of their situation?

Ah, gotcha.

I guess it could be argued they were moving with their own will, but it could also have been random movements in plasma.

I don't remember any explanation of if they were conscious of their movement or not.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 5 points 10 months ago

He always says that to himself, but then he never does... :-|

[–] swab148a@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 10 months ago

Ah man, now I gotta go back to reading Chief O'Brien at Work .

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Topher on his birthday.