That doesnβt sound at all fair. Why should they get trips to orbit and I donβt ?
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No one said anything about life support or return.
Just a rocket, a straight jacket, and right off into space you go. Depending on how many they cram in a rocket, there's a chance they'll have enough oxygen to see the spherical earth, shattering their weak minds, and succumbing to hypoxia, death, evacuating their bowels, and their corpses floating around in space, buried in their own shit and piss, boiling from solar radiation, becoming the first stew in space, before burning up on reentry.
Lmao new copypasta just dropped.
Yummy. Makes you hungry.
Imagine someone writing text like this about some other group of people.
Madeline: Point.
I don't believe in big natural boobs. can i get sent towards them?
If you don't believe in round chests does that make you a flat chester?
Cursed to orbit but never touch.
Some people can only accept the truth when rubbed on their faces...
I can show you mine anytime. I'm a guy tho.
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You really think theyβre going to believe their lying eyes and ears? I think not. Theyβre in a collective psychosis.
Pshaw, when people are handed direct evidence of something, they'll totally come around to reality!
*looks at twitter posts
...oh.
Flat earthers make the world go round!
They'll think they got strapped into a simulator and are just looking at far away TV screens or some shit. They don't tend to let evidence sway them from their beliefs
If being a flat earther got me a free ticket to space, I'd be out on the corner right now preaching about the giant space turtle.
it's not just one turtle.
it's turtles all the way down.
Make them row out into the ocean and over the edge!
Woah, too far. They shouldn't have to die for being dumb. Just have them row to the edge and once they find it, they can come back.
OK I agree! I want photos.
There was one flat-Earther who built his own rocket in an attempt to prove his claims. He ended up crashing and dying.
It's a fine point, but he wasn't a flat earther. He was grifting flat earthers to fund his rocketry hobby.
Hahaha really? Fuck we lost a good one then huh
It's described at the end of his Wikipedia page in the Motivation section.
Don't know if he was a good one or not. But it was an act.
I'm with you. It's time to create some concents from Neal Stephensons Anathem.
You advocating death penalty for wrong beliefs?
I'm pretty sure this entire post was a joke.
I mean yeah but that's how the right got so far. Jokes become reality.
Madeline: I don't want them dead. I just want to hear the wonderful shattering noises of their worldview going snap.
Could I get that "punishment" too?
On the contrary, we need alternate opinions to sharpen our own arguments. Banning them leads to an echo chamber effect where nothing ever challenges our thinking.. which is a big part of the problems facing the world today.
We need to allow different opinions, sure. But, do we need more morons and conspiracy theorists? They feed and exist because of the amplifying factor of social media.
I usually welcome any challenges to my opinions, but I expect a minimum requirement for self reflection and critical thought. This doesn't pass that bar.
The other problem is that it's a slippery slope. Theoretically whoever would be in control of essentially killing these people would be the ones who make the final decision on who those people actually are.
With that level of power corruption will be unavoidable and people that are not even actually flat earthers will die as well due to their deaths being convenient in unrelated ways for the group that decides which flat earthers get jettisoned into space. I don't think anyone should have that power, humanity has more than proven by now that placing people into positions of that much power never works out squeaky clean.
I'm... not advocating ... I don't think OP literally, hm. Maybe you meant to reply to OP?
I'm supporting you from another angle, not contesting you, my argument goes against OP's suggestion, and yeah I don't think OP was being literal, but it's a fun thought experiment
Ah, gotcha. As a thought experiment it falls on the same moral issues as with any capital punishment. The bigger problems I think are with how woefully unprepared society is for the incentives advertisement based social media has.
One might think, "what does advertisement have to do with this?". It turns out that outrage is much more engaging than any intellectual discourse that discusses nuances. So, Facebook and it's ilk amplifies all and any cancerous misinformation. Humans being malleable believe what they are exposed to, and measles outbreaks are now a thing again.
Flat earthers aren't the problem. Neither are Maga morons, Q-anons, anti-vaxxers. They aren't even the weakest souls. Humans aren't all that different. Just different circumstances. And, the problems are those that encourage and facilitate those circumstances. Put those in a shuttle destined to the sun.
Madeline: To be clear, I want them to come back reasonably intact. I don't want them dead, I want to shatter their worldview.
If you were in their shoes you'd believe the same thing
I'm happy to let people believe that the earth is flat. Why is this such a big deal ?
There are people that believe that all women descend from an rib.
I find that much more scary that Jim and Stacey think that we living on a floating Mercator projection.
Nazis, too
No nazis in space, they belong underground
Based
6 feet under to be exact
Would a ride in a hot air balloon help them?
what's your biggest argument that the earth is round when you encounter flat earth believers?
Madeline: I haven't encountered any (that I know of), so cannot answer this question.
Madeline: Though I would be quite interested in what ANYONE would stand to gain from lying about the shape of the world. I'd really want to dissect those motives.
say I'm a flat earther, I say you look at the oceans and they're flat, and you look at water and would expect it to just spill over (how can it be flat on a round earth? it makes no sense how the waters look on a round earth...)
or say you acknowledge that the composite images of the "Blue Marble" view of the earth have been faked: https://qz.com/192700/the-guy-who-created-iphones-earth-image-explains-why-he-needed-to-fake-it
how do we know the earth is the shape it is then if people are not honestly giving photographic evidence of its shape?
Or say with GPS, I say that could be done on the land, there is no need to rely on satellites. Then how do we need to believe in satellites orbiting the earth, when land operations are sufficient for explaining them?
Or say someone says they don't know why people are lying about the earth being flat, when we know it is. What are they trying to hide by lying about its obvious flat shape?
and so on, to give you an idea of how a conversation might go
No need. They're such a small % of population and also wouldn't believe it even when shot to orbit.
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