Teams also doesn't support multiple "work" accounts, so I had to boot up a laptop to accept the call. 🤷
Well they are just lying, it works fine with Firefox and has worked fine for years. I live in the EU though. Sucks to be american these days, I guess?
These days? It's sucked to be an American for decades.
Better than being in a third world country ig. But it's frustrating, because our issues are generally fueled by greed and were entirely preventable
I have the same issue, but I am also in the EU. however, I just used an extension to spoof my user agent and now it works fine. there is some weird behavior sometimes, like when I call someone it doesn't actually ring the other person etc.
Just one more upside to Firefox, less interruptions during work~
Its cool how all these companies are allowed to just lie to you about their products functionality.
If you use Firefox, you are a communist; and if you are a communist why would you need the glorious tools of corporate communication? Just make do with rotten turnips as Lenin intended
This is not mildly infuriating this is the free internet being eroded through Google’s control of Chrome
This team block is so agressive to firefox users that it's literaly hardcoded as if web browser firefox then deny.
You cam override that by changing a parameter in firefox to advertise itself as another we browser. I don't remeber how i did it but, once i had to use firefox and i just changed that stting in order to advertise me to the host as a edge browser. With that changed i could use teams as normal.
Epic drm.
When I'd search "(location) weather" on Google (e: in Chrome) and I'd get a really nice at a glance forecast right on top. Do the same thing in Firefox and I'd get a whole bunch of weather websites I could go to. The former obviously being a better, more direct experience. I found an extension that fools Google into thinking it's Chrome and all works fine with that.
I'm amazed if this doesn't violate some antitrust regulation
Just checked: Duck Duck go displays the forecast right on top.
This is likely legacy code. Firefox used to have a lot of issues with WebRTC, so practically all video conferencing systems blocked it. Teams probably has some "block Firefox because it doesn't work properly" check that was written 5+ years ago and none of the current developers are even aware of its existence.
Well-coded ones did feature detection instead of checking the user-agent, meaning they automatically started allowing Firefox as soon as it implemented all the required features.
Feature detection is usually the way to go. If your website / webapp depends on a particular feature, check if that specific feature exists, rather than checking for particular browsers. Browser checks are still needed in some cases, for example Safari sometimes reports that it supports particular features but it really doesn't (or they're so buggy to the point where they're unusable), but that's relatively rare.
Feature detection is usually the way to go. If your website / webapp depends on a particular feature, check if that specific feature exists, rather than checking for particular browsers. Browser checks are still needed in some cases, for example Safari sometimes reports that it supports particular features but it really doesn’t (or they’re so buggy to the point where they’re unusable), but that’s relatively rare.
This is tough to implement when the feature is present, but implemented wrong. Or, even worse, when it's implemented right, but the most popular browser implements it wrong and almost everyone else follow suit for compatibility reasons, except for one that takes the stance of following standards. I know safari is notorious for this, think pale moon had those issues, too, and there are still echoes from the past from pre-chrome internet explorer, thank god it's finally dead.
This is indeed the case. I use firefox daily, including for teams. I have to fake my user agent to do it, but it works. Its purely teams just saying fuck you to firefox..
Try changing your user agent to a Chrome one (e.g. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/120.0.0.0 Safari/537.36). Works a treat!
Sidenote:
HTTP user agents have become absolutely bonkers over the years.
I like how this guy explains the history of browser user agents and why they have this strange configuration today:
Feels like we're back to 2007 again when spoofing firefox user agent to IE would fix websites not working properly, only now we spoof it to chrome instead.
Ms teams sucks in a big way
Just change your Useragent, Microsoft is a bunch of dummies and didn't even bother to code it in a way that makes sense as a DRM lmfao.
Teams won't even open on Safari. Must use a chrome-based browser (like... Edge!)
given the love Teams receives, it not working in [ insert browser ] is definitely a feature
Have you tried changing your user agent string to Chrome? I know it can sometimes sidestep these types of "errors". It can be changed manually through about:config under general.useragent.override, or there exists plenty of addons to switch it more easily.
I used to freelance for a big corp who used MS teams and provided me with separate credentials, while also having my private MS account, that I occasionally use for other corps I worked for.
It was a hell using it that way. I had to run each one in a private Brave window to be able to work on two different accounts.
I know they only use MS teams, bc their infra is all based on MS, and it probably works fine for them internally. But man, this shit needs to be fixed in some way to account for external people, especially the ones who chose their own stack and work simultaneously with others.
I just had to switch to New Teams last week because Classic teams just continued to have more and more call drops and connection problems. The New Teams doesn't even have an option to change the notification sound, and now I can't move the banner that appears in the top center of the screen when screen sharing that covers up tabs in browsers and the main preferences/search dialog in VS Code...also a Microsoft product. Apparently no one at Microsoft noticed that one of their most used products used in the most normal way blocks out important functionality from another one of them.
Teams also doesn’t support multiple “work” accounts
Firefox lets you have completely separate profiles with separate accounts (URL: about:profiles, it can't be linked to for security reasons) and also an official extension to have another layer of profiles on a per-tab basis (containers).
You can make it work by changing your UserAgent string (there's plugins for that) to some older chrome version to make things work.
I works for me without a user agent change if I enter through the Microsoft 365 teams workspace and not a teams share link.
It really can't. If you spoof the user agent it'll crash immediately after a call starts.
I suspect they use something extra on top of normal WebRTC.
I feel validated, reading about my daily struggles with Teams.
The other issue I have with conferencing apps on browsers is that they request access to your microphone even if it's a one-way audio session (i.e. webinar). It should be set in a way where you can separately join a meeting with audio without allowing access to your microphone.
You can use multiple work accounts in the app, have some clients that have their clients give them accounts to communicate internally with them. Just have to keep switching.
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