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[–] voight@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] redgarza@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

A whole thread of accusations against the PCV, yet not a single fact to backup any of them. When, in all their press and TP's releases, has the PCV allied with MariCo or any reactionary? Was the APR allied with them in the past elections, although none of them were part of it's tickets?

With regards Ukraine: I invite Norton, or anyone for what is worth, to show me where in either a) The PCV official communicate about the SMO b) Or any other releases (previous and subsequent to the SMO)

Did the PCV write it off as a mere inter-imperalist war, where both parts are to blame, and not a result of The West expansion towards Russia in violation of previous agreements.

[–] voight@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Did the PCV write it off as a mere inter-imperalist war, where both parts are to blame, and not a result of The West expansion towards Russia in violation of previous agreements?

Yes, they did, there are a few groups like this lying around. They're using the same cherrypicking used to condemn "Venezuelan imperialism" over Guyana-Essequibo. Same that Konstantin Syomin is using to denounce Hamas as an Iranian proxy (turning the genocide into an "inter-imperialist war", which is essentially a byword for "I don't give a fuck about this yay" in this school of thought). I can walk you through the history of the colonial claims on that region & how it relates to Venezuela's independence if you like.

Adding a little curtsy about how the US aggressed after using the Minsk agreement to buy time doesn't take away from this idealistic abomination.

Also, this thread is not my information source, it is conveniently bite sized so people can actually read it. I have plenty of other sources for you.

[–] voight@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

PCV is openly allied with US funded NGOs. If you would like, I can also walk you through the history of how the ground work for severe violence and deprivation is laid through such organizations.

[–] voight@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you need me to translate the screenshot for you?

[–] redgarza@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Hablo español ¿Para qué pasaría comunicados oficiales del PCV si no fuera el caso?

Lo que si me gustaría que me expliques es como llegas a la conclusión que pedir no amenazar con violencia a alguien es igual a apoyarla totalmente.

¿O hay un artículo en la CRBV o alguna otra LO que permite dichas acciones sólo si es una engendro arrastrada como la titular de la foto? Para eso es que existe la inhabilitación política.

Mas bien: El PCV actúa racionalmente al pedir no incitar violencia en un país en el cual apenas nos estamos recuperando de las guarimbas. Además que eso es lo que ella quiere; poder victimizarse para venderse como la perseguida por la horrible dictadura castro-chavista y que sus amos en DC soliciten que se le habilite porque claramente ella es la esperanza del país™*.

*No pregunten que acciones le pedía a sus amos para «salvar» al país.

[–] voight@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

Lo que si me gustaría que me expliques es como llegas a la conclusión que pedir no amenazar con violencia a alguien es igual a apoyarla totalmente.

This took forever to upload 😆

[–] voight@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

Lol, I asked you because you clearly miss the obvious political alliance being formed by calling the treatment of right wingers calling for regime change unfair. That's why I got the impression you couldn't even speak Spanish.

If you're asking me like, I had to choose between reasoning with someone who thinks Russia just wants the oil in Donbas and that's why they started this war, and someone who understands the effort to which the west has gone to politically and financially undermine Ukraine vs Russia and Belarus and still thinks they're also Hitler for coming in and building a bunch of 5-over-1 apartment buildings in Mariupol, I would prefer the former

[–] Pili@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Huh, are they Trotskyists?

[–] voight@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

They're Trumpists. Jk

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

What people think will happen if you let traitors live: And then everybody clapped

What actually happens when you let traitors live: