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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 54 points 9 months ago (5 children)

This is also nothing new, straw has been used as an insulation material for a very long time, even in "modern" buildings.

It's just nowhere near as effective as glass wool, for example.

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

glass wool

Is that the same as fiberglass?

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 13 points 9 months ago

Also "forbidden cotton candy"

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Kinda but not really, they're both made from glass fibres, but are a very different product that serves a very different purpose. Fibreglass typically comes in a flat cloth, and is used with resin to create something structural.

[–] TheOneCurly@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In the US we generally use fiberglass to mean both. But specifying glass wool would be more clear tbh.

[–] TheIllustrativeMan@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Would also match nomenclature with Mineral Wool Insulation.

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I worked on a few buildings where they used straw balls lenght wise. They had meter thick walls and it's very efficient. One of them only had a tiny wood stove

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

When you have a meter... I think anything will work as insulation

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean at that point a meter of air gap alone would be amazing insulation.

[–] general_kitten@sopuli.xyz 10 points 9 months ago

just an air gap is not that good as convection will move the air around decreasing its effectiveness. Most insulation is just a way to try to keep the air in place while the air is doing the actual insulation

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

Thats not efficient in terms of space though, you'd lose a lot of floor area that way.

[–] comrade19@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Grand designs did an episode on the construction of one. It has a beautiful smooth interior look once its rendered

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[–] smeg@feddit.uk 36 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Wtf is going on with that white border?

[–] kyle@lemm.ee 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Someone took a screenshot, pasted it into MS Paint, and then forgot to crop it.

Source: personal experience lol

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Why not just right click/long press > save image?

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[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

why would you ever want to do that

[–] kyle@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

Sometimes people add stupid stuff to a meme and I just want an easy way to crop it.

MS Paint for me is just an easy crop tool that I can add text to if I want. I understand it's a garbage tool but it hasn't changed in 20 years so I don't need to learn anything new lol.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Use lightshot. It's free and good.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago
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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

In all seriousness though: Pretty sure this is referring to using straw as insulation, not structural elements.

[–] DillyDaily@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Haybale homes have been around for ages, mum said they popular in the the 70s with the earth loving movement, and I recall them getting popular on pinterest again in 2012ish with the eco house movement.

You stack the bales, run insulated cables and plumbing as needed, then render over the whole lot.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Seems like it could be a disaster if you get a leak of any sort.

[–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

People lived that way for thousands of years. You do a bit of yearly inspection and maintenance. It's literally slapping mud on the wall to fix it, not too bad.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

It just seems like getting a small leak that you don't know about would cause a mold nightmare. Hay costs more than fiberglass insulation, so I guess I don't see the benefit.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

I think the newer developments compress the straw more than older bales, though I'm not actually familiar with older hay bale homes.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I forsee many issues with mould

[–] droans@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'd be more worried about fire. High temperature plus a bit of moisture from, say, a leak, will cause hay piles to spontaneously combust.

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[–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

The cob or other earthen plaster incorporates clay or livestock manure which add hydrophobic and polymeric properties, which then air-cures to seal out moisture, and it's thick so if it gets wet it has to get really wet to penetrate the hay. Ideally these also have large overhanging rooves to sheet away rain.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Nope. Look closer and you will see that those wooden support beams are totally also made of hay

[–] pugsly@lemmy.l0l.city 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 9 points 9 months ago

My guinea pigs would love if my home was made out of straw.

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

My revolutionary idea is live in trees.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

To all the comments saying this is just straw insulation: it's more than that.

Compressed straw as building blocks is a thing now. Apparently it's strong and fire retardant too, though I don't know how much treating and cladding it needs above just being compressed.

Usually the straw block is made with a big motorised machine, but I've seen a hand-operated straw block press, with a great big long pole as an enormous lever. And the building made from its produce: a two storey building with conference hall and kitchen/accommodation. I think only the conference hall half was made with the straw blocks; the other half is interlocking bricks (like Lego 1-by-2s) also made on site.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I worked on one of these years ago in the mid-atlantic. It was a fucking disaster. I'm sure they are great in the desert.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

In the middle of the Atlantic?! No WONDER it didn't work, what were you thinking?!

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[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't using straw in roofing or insulation spread bed bugs? I remember reading how the little monsters used to spread in medieval Europe that way, and in their straw mattresses.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hay is treated and these houses do get walls. Hay is just used for insulation, nothing more and this image posted is not representative.

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[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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designboom, @designboom

future homeowners in france are now looking into "straw houses"

designboom.com/architecture/s…

[A photograph of a building interior with straw lining the walls. Two large windows are present on the wall.]

HOOD VOGUE is tired of poverty, @keyon

Y'all don't read classic literature.

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Apropos to nothing in particular, there are some cool developments in hemp building materials over the recent years.

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