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I wanted to get a pulse check on how new members are finding the general experience/website. Is it more confusing than Reddit or are you finding the instance system a better way of doing things as it can give you more freedom of where you choose to create an account?

I'm a new user myself but have found the experience to remind me of Reddit back in the day, lol. It's definitely giving me old-school yet modern vibes and it's great to see something that isn't Reddit growing in popularity!

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[-] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Comment syncing to my instance is a problem. I get posts but comments, not so much.

[-] Banana@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I like the concept
But it feels very much like its been designed by nerdy developers and has had little to no-input on user friendly design.

The federated idea can work but it needs to be more seemless than this.

  1. Communities with the same name should be merged when viewing it from any instance, so you can see all the posts from these communities, they can be moderated seperatley and for advanced users you should be able to select which communities make up the merged community.
  2. By default you should see all of the merged communities in a central place and be able to subscribe to them easily, at the moment its handled different per instance but you have to seek out these communities to subscribe or follow them.
  3. I strongly believe there should be a centralised log-in system, so you can log into any instance with an account from another instance, this means if your instance goes down your account is centralised and is safe.
[-] Noedel@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Regarding point three: I want to be able to migrate my profile to another instance if my current instance has performance issues or admins going rogue.

[-] Banana@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I think even better, you should be able to sign into any instance via some type of centralised federated login, though I guess the argument is you can't do that in multiple email clients as email is the most popular federated example.

[-] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This may unironically be the first time I've ever suggested this: this may actually be a use case for the block chain.

If the user data from all instances was being saved to a distributed and verified ledger, it would fix the problem of one node going down losing all of those users, and would be a decentralized yet centralized way to go about it.

... I feel dirty, I swear I'm not a cryptobro

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Same here. I do feel and see that a LOT of work will be required to get lemmy where it needs to be but something tells me that these are the interesting days for Lemmy!

[-] sussy_gussy@wirebase.org 2 points 1 year ago

I'm having a great time. Lemmy is a little bit harder than Reddit but I have been on Mastodon for some time now so I know how federation works. The only thing about Lemmy I don't like is that it feels kinda buggy and unpolished as it is very early stage and the same posts often reappear. But I like the community and it actually seems to be working so that's pretty cool!

[-] cowleggies@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

So far, so good. Excited to see more variety in communities as more users discover and migrate to lemmy.

[-] imekon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Seems pretty reasonable, even the federated stuff works fine - unlike Mastodon, oddly.

[-] BobQuasit@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I think Lemmy desperately needs to integrate two things:

  • The ability to search for communities across instances inside of Lemmy (I'm aware of the search option outside of Lemmy, but that's less than ideal)
  • The ability to easily search within posts A) in all local communities, B) in all subscribed communities, and C) across all communities in the whole Fediverse. Yes, I'm aware that C) is a huge ask. But I think it's vital to the success of Lemmy.
[-] Dutczar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

The first point is CRUCIAL for setting up your own "scrolling page/account" for, since the instances are only very vague directions, at least while the site is still growing. And in a similiar vein, the second point with B) would be better than manually blocking communities I genuinely have no interest whatsoever in, like fountain pens (unless I don't know how to operate this site yet).

In fact, C) feels unnecessary because of that right now, since I already see many new communities just in my instance alone. Though it WOULD add things to browse since there isn't as much happening here, yet...

[-] YupYup@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Once I added a few different instances it became much better! Content will come. But the best users from Reddit will migrate along with us!

[-] Mane25@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Interface is better than "new" Reddit, not as good as old Reddit + RES.

Also: if I click on a link on another instance (for example https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy when I'm signed in on lemmy.world), I'm not signed in to lemmy.ml so I have to manually search for it in lemmy.world to post there - is there a common solution to that?

[-] KobeBryant@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago

For me I'm just worries that it wouldn't reach the critical mass to generate enough content to keep people around 🥲

[-] Skooshjones@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Echoing many things that other users are saying already:

Signing up/choosing a home instance is confusing. I don't think it's very confusing conceptually, but it is confusing from a UX/UI perspective. Subscribing to outside communities was the toughest part, I had to find them through a different instance using a search engine, then manually paste the community-specific URL into my home instance search, wait several seconds, then click into the community home page and finally click "subscribe."

Not something a casual user is going to want or even figure out to do. I trust that many of these growing pains will be fixed in the coming weeks/months. I just hope that it's not all a flash in the pan and then fizzles out totally.

Once using it though, I like the general feel of it. Better themes and some cleaner UI choices and it will be really nice imo. People are friendly so far and that's worth a ton right there.

[-] remotelove@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, there is a ton of room for Lemmy to grow. With time, it should get easier for newer people to use it as the apps mature.

[-] Lemmylaugh@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Worried about the future of fediverse, all it takes is a few external bad apples and servers will start defederating. Also even less internal bad apples who decides to make specific desirable features proprietary with the goal to amass the majority to users. Both of these are bad for the fediverse.

[-] tauonite@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Joined today and I find Lemmy really cool. Of course there isn't that much content here yet but I'm hoping the June 12 Reddit protests and the upcoming Reddit API restrictions will bring more users in.

[-] ManateeManny@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I love it here and I'll express myself and show love to all with manatees

[-] Father_Redbeard@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

People are much friendlier here, so far.

[-] SuspiciousUser@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It feels like my experience on Mastodon after Twitter imploded. Hopefully it lasts.

[-] BobQuasit@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

It's not bad, but there are a couple of issues that concern me. One is that communities are fractured - that is, that communities about the same topics exist on different instances and don't connect with each other.

So I'm subscribed to a Books community on one instance, but that doesn't mean I'll see any of the posts on the same topic on other instances unless I subscribe to each of them. The total community of users on Lemmy who are interested in books are split up into small groups on different instances.

That's very limiting.

Of course there's also the issue of the relatively small user base overall. For some purposes a small community may be preferable, but for many others you really need a large user base. Looking for gamers for a face to face tabletop RPG, for example. Without a large user base, the odds of finding people within a reasonable real world distance of you is virtually nil.

[-] MentallyExhausted@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago

I’m new and could be wildly wrong, but it seems like an improved UI could consolidate multiple communities into one “this is my feed” so you can participate in all of them. If one dies, you don’t lose everything.

[-] StrictMachine@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah, if a community is a "magazine" on here it'd be really nice to collate a number of magazines I'm interested in into a "rack" similar to a multireddit.

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I like that it’s still so small. None of this karma farming just diluting from high quality content and conversations

[-] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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[-] Ultivek@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I don't really know whats going on the whole instance thing confuses me. Whats it's pros? Why use it

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Basically 4 things:

  • Pick your own admin. I'm sure the kbin admin is awesome (can't be worse than spez, lol) but it's nice to have the option

  • Have more control over what your server federates with. Hate interacting with people from a specific server? Move to one that blocks it. Want to interact with people from a blocked instance? Move to one that doesn't block them. Basically more options.

  • Don't like the rules on your server? Go to one where you like the rules better.

  • Your server is down? That's fine, go to a different one temporarily. You're gonna feel this hard on Monday. Kbin's gonna get crushed by the Reddit hug of death. You might wanna join up to a small Lemmy instance that the horde won't notice if that happens and you still wanna be on.

If you like kbin's admin, federation settings and rules? Then cool! You're missing absolutely nothing from being there (except when it's down). It's nice to have options though.

Secret number 5:

If you know how to host a server, you can host your own Lemmy instance and have all the powa!

[-] honorfaz@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

@Barbarian So I have a few questions, being new to all this:

  1. Seemingly I am responding to you when you're on a different instance. I'm on kbin and you're on... sh.itjust.works? Am I understanding this right?

  2. My kbin account is restricted to just kbin, correct? I cannot use my kbin credentials to log on to another instance like sh.itjust.works.

  3. How do I make an original comment (this is a bit dumb lol). I see the option to reply to others but no "comment" button for me to comment on my own.

  4. On kbin specifically... what is a microblog?

  5. (Last one promise), what is up with the @stuff. I see this post link is kbin.social/m/asklemmy@lemmy.mt... I figured the /m is like reddit's /r, but what is the asklemmy@lemmy.mt meaning that this is the magazine/community from lemmy.mt when shown on the kbin /m/ instance version? Not sure if this question makes any sense lol I'm just trying to understand how this all works

[-] primalmotion@lemmy.antisocial.ly 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Your username in the fediverse is not honorfaz, but @honorfaz@kbin.social, just as an email. It's the same for communities (or sublemmy, or whatever we decide to call it). It's not c/something, but c/something@instance.com. This is why everyone still has a unique handle, but no unique admin.

I'm on my own instance for example, running in my living room, and yet here we are, talking. Internet as it was intented.

[-] chf@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I like the idea, but to be honest it feels unpleasant to use. Multiple different communities with the same topic are hosted on different servers, so I have to subscribe on them all if I want to keep track on what is happening. Would be nice to have some "mega community" that would have them all there. Also web client is broken, it feels so bad when my feed is moved down when new fresh post is added on top, this is borderline annoying and unusable> chf

upd: have tried kbin, it seems there they fixed all the annoying parts of lemmy. Great usage experience!

[-] dj3hac@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Very confused.. I have a direct link to a Linux community and can't figure out how to open it, or join it, or whatever I'm supposed to do with it in Jerboa. Discovery seems severely limited.

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[-] sparky@lemmy.pt 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One question I still have is how quickly posts and comments propagate across the Fediverse. How can I be sure the comment I'm writing actually shows up across other instances, and how long after I write it does it take on average to show up other places?

[-] sparky@lemmy.pt 0 points 1 year ago

For instance, when I look at the list of comments on this thread sorted by both Hot and New, directly on Lemmy.ml versus on my home instance of Lemmy.pt, I don't see the same set of comments. Not all of the ones from Lemmy.ml appear to have made it over to my instance. Is there some sort of eventual consistency mechanism in the system?

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Wait, what comments do you see?

D—Do you see my comment?

[-] Atemu@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

No, nothing to be seen unfortunately.

[-] MisakiMei@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

There's not a single middle eastern sub, and I doubt there ever will be😞

[-] Bruce_Wayne@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Be the change you wanna see!

[-] eggsandwich@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

I’m enjoying the concept behind the fediverse, and while communities are small right now, they’re eventually gonna get bigger and be more centralized.

I think the UI/UX does need a little more work, but that’ll come with time.

[-] Echolot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Let’s not kid ourselves UI/UX needs a lot of work not just a little, but it’s making progress and all done by volunteers and that’s impressive on it’s own.

[-] ToyotaCorona@ttrpg.network 0 points 1 year ago

It’s like eating something extremely good, best way to put it. It’s amazing, everything reddit did wrong doesn’t exist here. It’s like a utopia.

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