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[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 235 points 9 months ago (5 children)

That's not winning a war..that's isolating your garbage company further.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 68 points 9 months ago

I see it as a victory….for humanity against Xitter

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 27 points 9 months ago

"it's not me who's trapped with you, it's you who's trapped with the horrible smell of your own farts and diarrhoea"

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Apparently he just bought and trashed Twitter because that kid was tracking his plane

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

Would Swift be the next owner of Twitter then?

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[–] PilferJynx@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)
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[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 58 points 9 months ago (4 children)

It has been a while that Nitter shut down. Still a pity, a few artists posted only there

[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The only reason to still check Twitter is to see if they have moved off Twitter yet.

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[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A while? I used nitter until like 12hours ago.

[–] yhvr@lemm.ee 35 points 9 months ago

The brief explanation is that Nitter worked by creating "guest accounts", which were a leftover from when you used to be able to use the Twitter mobile app without an account. After creation, these accounts lasted for a month. The time since the ability to create these accounts was removed is nearing (has reached?) a month

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Posted only on nitter? Isn't nitter only a frontend for twitter? I don't think nitter has their own backend, but I can be wrong.

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 5 points 9 months ago

Artists posted on Twitter, which people would access via Nitter

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[–] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 47 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

This service going down and me recently deciding to try to check in on whether some people I used to follow on Twitter had migrated elsewhere made me realize how much Twitter's basically isolated itself from the open web.

A part of me hopes this serves as a wake-up call for those that were still hovering between using Twitter and weaning off it using services like this, to reach out to those they follow and let them know, "Hey, if you think you're still posting publicly...You're not, only other people here can see this." For many people that may not matter, but for creators/influencers? I dunno, maybe network effect is enough that they feel the large audience there is plenty, but I'd think they might want as broad of a reach as possible, and a popular but limited view platform isn't necessarily that.

Much more importantly though are any government/critical services. They really need to be brought up to date, if they haven't been already, that the platform is no longer as publicly accessible as it may have once been. Also the same applies not just for Twitter but Facebook and the like as well, but that's another topic.

[–] SketchySeaBeast@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I can't believe that governments and infrastructure services are still using it. I can, at best, see your single tweet, and odds are good I can't see the most recent. It's nuts that anyone would ever want to use that as a broad communication platform.

[–] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 41 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (9 children)

How come every 3 weeks there is a news that nitter is now dead, and then I go to the Nitter Instance Health Monitor, pick a random instance, and am still able to surf tweets?

I dont get it. Is this wishfull thinking or do people not understand that instances other than nitter.net exist?

EDIT: I gotta admit, there is a lot of red in the last days. But it is not completely gone. Yet.

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 65 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Article text:

There are still some active Nitter instances, but they are expected to shut down in the near future as the remaining tokens expire. Three weeks ago, Zed wrote on GitHub that "Nitter is dead."

[–] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 20 points 9 months ago

Well, that is sad and incontrovertible argument. I guess I should cherish it as long as I can.

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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 40 points 9 months ago

Guess I won't be opening any twitter links anymore 🤷

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[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago

The same shit as Reddit. Glory to Mastodon.

[–] kryllic@programming.dev 30 points 9 months ago

I think it's more winning the battle but losing the war for Twitter. It just ain't the same and probably never will be.

A major German party (SPD) decided to quit using Twitter a few weeks ago.

They want a free market. They want to sell their service across borders. They don't want law makers to limit what they can do.

And what's their service? A non-democratic system with many limitations and restrictions and they decide on a very detailed level what you have to do to use it.

[–] koncertejo@lemmy.ml 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And with it dying I think that's probably the last time I'll look at Twitter. If something isn't publicly available on something like Mastodon it isn't worth making an account to see.

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 9 months ago

I've enabled auto redirect from twitter to nitter and never bothered to disable the no longer working redirect. Hopefully people switch to some platform with open API access (or rather, a federated platform)

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Really trying to spez things up huh? Bold move Cotton.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Musk was a trailblazer for Spez.

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That's Xitter's last dying gasp, for me. I have only accessed it through Nitter for many months now.

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

https://github.com/YunoHost-Apps/nitter_ynh/issues/42 So maybe running a private instance still can work.

[–] mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] lastsonofkrypton@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Events across the world have reduced my faith in corporations. Open-source, community-driven solutions are definitely the answer. Twitter has closed itself since it was acquired. Not to forget the Reddit api fiasco. With platforms closing themselves, they prevent the right to information. Anyone on the web should be able to access a microblogging site that plays (or played) such an important role in the world.

Arstechnica post has comments filled with how emergency services updates are posted on Twitter. We should all be part of the solution by promoting an open web that is not controllable by a singular entity. 

That being said, for a service like emergency alerts, it definitely should be hosted on a site like Mastodon. It even has RSS.

To make matters worse, I just read an article about how the Indian government might be deciding to block proton mail

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

all the value is gone, its not worth it anymore anyway

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[–] EpicVision@monero.town 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Twiit (https://twiiit.com/) checks for nitter instances that still work and redirects you.

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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago

The enshitification is very, very real. This is why the Fediverse is so important.

[–] Yoz@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

Unfortunately, lots and lots of people

[–] UnaSolaEstrellaLibre@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Too many people/companies/governments depend on Twitter.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

i can still access it through nitter.net (even if the cert is not working you can still use the 'thisisunsafe' method in chrome).

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


An open source project that let people view tweets without going to Twitter.com has shut down, as Elon Musk's changes seem to have closed off all possible ways to access the Twitter network without a user account.

"Most Nitter servers were using a technique of generating loads of temporary tokens that were used for accessing the content, but that path is now blocked as well," the NoLog update today said.

"I conclude that it is possible to easily acquire thousands of guest accounts within just a few minutes by using proxies, and they are all usable from a single IP address without getting rate limited," the August 2023 post said.

I will also develop a service that fetches these continuously, and lets operators request guest accounts for their own instances without having to pay for proxies."

Pointing to a recent discussion on GitHub, today's update from NoLog said there may be "a way to spin up a personal Nitter instance with your own account to keep the interface you are used to, but there is no guarantee this will work long-term."

"Unfortunately regular accounts can only support a small group of users, so running a public instance this way is not feasible," the update said.


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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

That pungent musk of Musk.

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