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[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 151 points 9 months ago (65 children)

the right wing ethos that boils my blood the quickest is when people drool out shit like 'play stupid games win stupid prizes' under a story about some guy getting brutally beaten by police for being at a protest or stealing a dvd

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[–] 52fighters@sopuli.xyz 73 points 9 months ago (4 children)

A right to remain silent. A right to a competent attorney regardless of ability to pay. A right to due process. A right to a timely trial by a jury of peers. A right to healthy food, shelter, healthcare, and other accommodations while incarcerated. I'm probably missing a few.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 61 points 9 months ago (7 children)

The right to a fair wage while imprisoned. Or else your justice system only serves to produce slaves.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Slavery is legal in prisons here in the U.S.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (7 children)
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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 46 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The right to vote, regardless of criminal convictions or incarceration.

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[–] splonglo@lemmy.world 71 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely. The right say they're pro-freedom but they'll strip you of the right to vote if you smoke weed.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 57 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Coincidentally one of the reasons that led to the prohibition of cannabis.

Who smoked weed? Black people, brown people, and when the war on drugs really ramped up…hippies.

Nowadays most rational people realized the war on drugs was bunk and people of all walks and colors smoke weed.

I doubt it’s a coincidence that the states that haven’t decriminalized yet are the ones that still love to hassle PoCs and hippies the most.

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

It was Mexicans too. It's where the "lazy Mexican sleeping in the shade" comes from.

If you're willing to question cannabis legality maybe look at other drugs too. Coca leaves were chewed by native tribes millennia ago to help with long journeys. Kratom was used in Asia to help with long harvest days. Celts were eating shrooms millennia ago.

Humanity has a LONG history of drug use with nothing off-limits and there was no societal collapse from it. It's the past century puritan ideals that are a serious aberration.

Did you know it's statistically more dangerous to go horse riding than take Molly? The toilets in the UK Parliament were tested for cocaine and all tested positive. No drug should be illegal.

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[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I love how stereotypical Mexicans are portrayed as both lazy and hard working at the same time.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Which is why I refuse to call it 'marijuana.' It's a word making it sound Spanish and therefore a threat from down south. It's from Asia, not Latin America. The name, in English, makes no sense- unless you want to demonize it.

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[–] Axiochus@lemmy.world 60 points 9 months ago (4 children)

That's a very good way of putting it. Reminds me of the developments in Russia.

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[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 42 points 9 months ago (9 children)

Countries that are known for corruption often have massive bureaucracies that are full of little seemingly inconsequential laws that most people can safely ignore all the time. The result is that nearly everybody's breaking some rule just to function with some level of efficiency in society. In fact if you wanted to follow every rule it would break you.

The result is that whenever a vengeful government official wants to bring someone down all they have to do is investigate for a few minutes and figure out which is the most recent rule that was broken and poof that person's a criminal.

[–] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This is why "you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide" is a fallacy. They could invent a reason to get rid of anyone they don't like because the law is convoluted on purpose.

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[–] BuddyTheBeefalo@lemmy.ml 39 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] microphone900@lemmy.ml 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The great thing about Florida is that the people voted to give them the right to vote back after prison but Republicans in the state's Congress hated that and did everything they could to stop it.

While voting rights CAN be restored, they ensured that the process to accomplish it was a Byzantine maze that could not be navigated. I don't just mean it's hard, I mean it's impossible because some of the requirements can't be met (eg they can't pay all court costs if the government doesn't know, or won't say, the amount owed).

Fuck the will of the people I guess.

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[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 9 months ago (6 children)

And free speech. Don't forget that.

If you don't support the free speech rights of the people you hate the most, then you're against free speech.

Being against free speech is tyrannical. Also...Can you point to any time in history where the people censoring controversial things were the good guys in the ensuing conflict?

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Can you point to any time in history where the people censoring controversial things were the good guys in the ensuing conflict?

Whether there's "good guys" in a war is debatable. But if you're under the belief that there are good guys in wars, then we can point to basically every war in history.

Censorship during wars was actually the norm in the past. The Spanish influenza didn't originate in Spain, it's just that it was first reported there. Because Spain wasn't a part of WWI. The news in the countries involved in the war were censored and couldn't report on it.

Nazi propaganda was banned in the US and other allied countries in WWII.

People in the American Revolution were publicly tortured (tarred and feathered) for speaking out against the revolutionary government.

Sorry, history just isn't as clean and simple as you might think.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Give everyone the right to have rights.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

That’s actually a classic blunder. If you give everyone rights then that implies that they can be taken away

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

There are definitely additional levels of tyranny.

[–] Gregorech@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Some are are simply called HOA

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[–] THE_MASTERMIND@lemmy.today 17 points 9 months ago

That's what a criminal would say

/s just in case.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Better get on it fast. They did that shit to me despite the law and nobody involved in any step of the process helped. They have no oversight.

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