Basically that's what they did with Ocean's 11. The original Frank Sinatra version was shit. But it was a good idea, a crew of super cool dudes get together to rob a casino.

They remade it and it was very successful.

The Thing has a similar origin.

But it's rare things like that happen because Hollywood execs usually need an existing property with good numbers to greenlight a movie.

Ghost in the Shell was an unnecessary remake of a fantastic original animation that was improved by the series that followed it. There was never a need for a live action version.

You mean take actual risks?????

No, none of that for my profit margin

Word War Z.

Have it actually be a mocumentary with interviews. Once people start talking switch to the scene. It is a collection of short stories. Would be fun.

Or make it a mini series.

Virtually every single bad adaptation can be directly traced back to studio interference.

Movies like LoTR only happened because the studios thought it would be a colossal flop, and so left the directors and producers alone.

If you want great movies, the studios need to leave the producers and directors the hell alone.

I'd go one further. Do longer run remakes for good source material that ended up with a bad movie.

Golden Compass Movie = bad

His Dark Materials limited series = fantastic

They have. Dune would be one example.

This is how we've ended up with 17 different attempts at the fucking Fantastic Four. Each one is shit, and EVERY director thinks that they've got the chops to make it work.

Hollywood...please....fucking stop. It doesn't get better. It's a cursed movie. Stop fucking trying to get the Fantastic Four to work. Just....put the poor thing out of its misery and let it sleep peacefully.

Your aim: logic.

Their aim: capitalism.

:-(

I don't care what anyone says, the worldbuilding that was done for the 1990s Super Mario Bros. movie was awesome and if the movie had lived up to it, it would have been great.

Remember that when the movie was made, Mario was a plumber that jumped on mushrooms and turtles to save a princess and he had a brother named Luigi that did the same thing. That was pretty much the entire storyline they had to work with.

Battlestar Galactica is a great example of something mediocre that was made great by a remake, but also something that might be greatly improved by another remake because the second half was so flawed.

Looking at you, Dark Tower

Stanley Kubrick never really had an original screenplay. His movies are based from an already existing story. He reasoned that it's better to adapt a story that is good but not considered classic, because it means there is plenty to improve from such story.

I see you're emulating Kubrick's idea 😂

Like Dune? Like Dune.

Dragonball Evolution was so shit that it drove Akira Toriyama out of retirement, which led to Battle of Gods, Resurrection F, Broly, Super Hero and an entirely new anime/manga series titled Dragon Ball Super.

It even technically is leading to Dragon Ball Daima, which looks like a serious effort to try and do the whole 'Goku is a kid again' concept that Dragon Ball GT fucked up 25 years ago.

I decided a few years ago to simply stop watching anything that was a remake, reboot, update or 'franchise'. Too many of them have used nostalgia and familiarity to compensate for shortcomings in storytelling. Even more cynically, leveraging intellectual property is all about money and business, whereas for me storytelling and art are about the human experience and spirit, so it's no wonder these IP films are usually so poor.

Some older movies that come to mind: Enemy Mine. Great sci fi premise that was ahead of its time. Just plagued with bad effects and limitations.

The Last Starfighter Not bad even for the day but I think it's a solid enough concept that could use a refresh. Set in the 80's to get the retro video game vibe. I think it could even be a multiple movie property.

Masters of the Universe It was a goofy premise with some interesting characters that were wasted. Even the updated animated series didn't do great. Or even go off in a space Western and do a Rio Blast movie.

Krull was really missing the visual elements to tell the story and it ended up cheesy and stilted (still holds some nostalgia for me though). It could still be a fun space fantasy.

Well they are taking another swing at Fantastic Four

How are our corporate overlord supposed to know what a good story is other than the success of a movie based in them?

I would love a proper remake of Eragon. That movie felt so rushed, like they just chopped the meat out of the story and gave us the bloody mush instead of the whole thing.

They just make the same mistakes again or do something even worse, as proven by the Resident Evil 3 remake.

The live action GitS? It was aight, but could've been better. As a huge fan of the story I wasn't that upset. I just didn't like what they did with Major (made her weak), and also didn't like that Section 9 was getting cucked, no one cucks section 9

In the case of Dune that is just happening, which is an exception.

I’m assuming you’re talking about the live action movie and I would agree. I had such high hopes for it and they (Hollywood) dropped the ball. I think it’s also a lack of understanding the source material and trying to adapt something to have a wider audience and western audience. When you involve those two things you know you’re going to be kind stepping in it. That being said I do think the props and effects done by Weta Workshop really were definitely highlights of that movie. They far exceed the casting and story. I would love to have it redone but Hollywood is gonna Hollywood and at the end of the day they (Hollywood) will shit all over source material if they think it’ll make them a buck.

Well, there's Dredd.

Fantastic Four: nth Time's the Charm

Event Horizon but I feel that it would be a lot more in your face horror if they made it today.

And give it time! I don't want a do-over of a failed movie just a couple years later. The Ghost in the Shell movie was a disappointment, but don't just keep plugging away at it until something works.