Off topic, but what's with the overprotective DO NOT COPY WITHOUT PERMISSION statement on the article image? It's a screenshot of KDE, not the author's own work...
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It's based on Ubuntu LTS, so it's not for me. Doesn't make sense that you'd want a bleeding-edge DE on an old kernel and system stack. I mean, I can understand if you're a KDE dev and you want a stable base to dev and test on, but if you're just a power user who wants to play with the latest and greatest, then using Ububtu makes no sense at all.
I've used KDE Neon on my desktop pretty much since KDE Neon came to be. I don't care too much about having the latest kernel and libraries on that machine (the hardware is a decade old - support's not really getting better), and between the latest KDE and getting most of my other apps through snaps I've got the latest and greatest of what I care about there.
... getting most of my apps through snap...
You poor soul.
What is it about Ubuntu LTS that makes it a hard pass?
user who wants to play with the latest and greatest
“Up to date” and “LTS” are kind of antithetical
I don't really care if I'm running a kernel from 5 years ago as long as I'm still getting timely security updates. What I care about is having up to date versions of the apps I actually use day-to-day - through Flatpack, Docker or whatever, and I prefer to have an up to date WM cos it's something I interact with a lot.
you probably have old hardware in that case
the latest kernel releases greatly helped with the effiency of newer AMD and Intel (Hybrid) CPUs which can give you a longer battery usage on laptops
I just answered your question. If one wants latest up to date, LTS release-based distros are just not an option. You do you lol.
FWIW, I only reach out for Flatpak if I can’t find something natively. Unless you just use your DE as is without changing the look of things, making your apps look consistent is made pretty complicated by the requirement for your theme to be repackaged and distributed on flatpak. The sandboxed nature also can get annoying for certain types of apps (e.g. IDEs which tend to reach out for external tooling pretty often, etc). I also tend to trust my distro’s packagers a bit more than randos on flathub, but maybe that’s just me.
Is it? They provide LTS as a base since they don't want to deal with bleeding edge packages breaking something for end users or devs, but they manually override a few packages with their own to show off their latest work. Seems like a good deal.
TBH if I wanted stable I'd run Debian, bit yes I do not see the point being made by the OP of the comment.
The whole point of neon is to showcase the DE, they say as much on the website. Unless you’re super passionate about KDE Development, it’s probably not going to be for you
What distro do you recommend?
I also would like to know. I use KDE Neon right now, but a more up-to-date ubuntu base would be great. I just don't see a distro that does that and uses KDE. And I don't want to use a Canonical distro with all the stupid snaps and stuff
Kde connect will finally have the function to connect via bluetooth, I've been waiting for this for a long time.
omg really? I've been having to add my device by up bc for whatever reason my uni's wifi, kde connect, and my phone do not play well together
Neon works great for me.
- I prefer Debian derived distros (RH derivatives are fine as a technology, but I've been using Debian derivatives for so long that RedHat feels like coming home and finding someone has rearranged your cutlery drawer and all your plates - I don't care if your system makes more sense, in sure I'd get used to it but right now I can't find anything!)
- I do most of my work in Docker or using tools I install from upstream
- I don't really play games so don't care about marginal performance gains from newer drivers
Pretty much I just want a laptop that just works when I need it to, while still having a nice, friendly, modern interface and Neon does that.
Would you say that RH makes more sense than Debian? If so, in which ways? I"ve been using Debian for the last 10 years, so it feels like home to me too, but recently I've been curious about other distros.
Debian makes more sense to me because I've been using Debian and Ubuntu since people were getting excited about Debian Wheezy coming out soon.
What little I have used of RHEL and CentOS they seem to be pretty logically designed, just different. I hadn't come across any real WTFs trying to use them. RHEL makes Debian look bleeding edge and reckless with their updates by comparison
it's like linux mint but for kde
Yeah ut does anyone know when it will arrive in other distros' repos, e.g Fedora, Arch and NixOS?
Not sure about Fedora, but it's already in extra-testing in Arch and has already been merged into master in NixOS apparently, so it should be hitting the general channels pretty soon hopefully.
Edit: apparently the Fedora 40 beta has Plasma 6 but I didn't check that myself, I just saw someone mention it.
Seems you're right, as I saw The Linux Experiment was using the Fedora 40 Beta to test Plasma 6 for his review
Does Neon provide beta or stable packages of Kde 6 ?
The have 3 editions: User (stable, released packages), Testing (using stable version branches with updates, but not released/tested yet), Unstable (using development branches with new features, untested and not released yet)
Yes (to both).
For those upgrading, you might run into some bugs but there's a lot of documentation of them on their bugtracker now thankfully.
In my experience, my main panel disappeared and I had to re add a bunch of the dbus services that disappeared too but I think they've been sorted with hotfixes since yesterday.