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[–] False@lemmy.world 53 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] lauha@lemmy.one 29 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 53 points 8 months ago (1 children)

the little "world tension" meter in HOI4 just went up by like 3%

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[–] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 12 points 8 months ago (6 children)

startrek website continuing to be the highest quality instance

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[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (11 children)

NATO still trying to finish what the nazis started.

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[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It was a de facto member as long as NATO existed. Now it also is a de jure member too, a big nothing-burger.

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

NATO membership comes with guarantees and responsibilities.

The guarantee is that if Sweden would be attacked, other members will support with their troops. The responsibility is that Sweden must expand their military.

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 8 months ago (7 children)

The former won't happen. Sweden is sorrounded by friendly countries. The second is a downside for Sweden.

So globally it is a nothing burger and locally it is a negative development for Sweden.

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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Guys will see this and say "hell yea"

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 25 points 8 months ago
[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 18 points 8 months ago (7 children)

I don't like the expansion of NATO, but due to Russia's recent imperialism, Sweden's and Finland's reactions are completely reasonable. A much healthier alternative would have been actually advancing towards an integrated European defense system involving EU members, with a door open to certain neighbours such as Norway, but it's pretty hard to do that when the political groups that could actually promote that alternative are schizophrenically tolerating positions such as "I'm a pacifist, so I'm advocating for my own country's disarmament despite my neighbours starting wars very recently" and "if Ukraine didn't want to get invaded, they shouldn't have sought guarantees against Russian aggression from third countries".

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[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Fuck the tankies in here and praise UN and Sweden.

[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago
[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Russia locked out of the Balkan Sea now?

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Balkan wars were tough on Sweden, being so geographically close to the conflict.

[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

NATO coming for the Baltic peninsula next

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago

Swedes still dream about dominium maris baltici

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[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 8 months ago (10 children)

Huzzah! Welcome to the team, Sweden. We can all be self defense buddies together! =D

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