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Shut it down. (lemmy.ml)
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[-] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 13 points 8 months ago

people who think this thing can be fixed are delusional.

"with just a few minor changes the Orphan Shredder 3000 could be a real force for good in the world"

[-] MisterMcBolt@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Right, but the ones who think they’ll be fortunate enough to survive the destruction unscathed are equally delusional. A fix suggests incremental changes over time that may minimize harm to most parties affected. A complete tear-down simply confirms the end of the status-quo, with no implication of anything better rising from the ashes.

In anarchy, those with power reign supreme over those without. Most power and resources are already consolidated in a tiny minority. In the event of “destruction of the system,” this tiny minority have already positioned themselves to both maintain their current power and even grow it. Maybe this tear-down is necessary and good, but I doubt it’ll destroy the Orphan Shredder 3000.

[-] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

That was great.

[-] anarchotoothbrushist@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

A complete tear-down simply confirms the end of the status-quo, with no implication of anything better rising from the ashes.

Most anarchists would advocate a strategy of 'prefiguration', often summarised as 'building the new world in the shell of the old'. You don't have to tear down the old system before you start building its replacement.

In anarchy, those with power reign supreme over those without. Most power and resources are already consolidated in a tiny minority.

Once a society has reached a condition of anarchy, there would, by definition not be a tiny minority with a concentration of power and resources. Anarchy means no rulers/authority.

[-] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

You shouldn't claim others are delusional just because you can't see an alternative outcome.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 3 points 8 months ago

Literally. You cannot incrementally turn a tool of oppression into a force for good.

[-] tastysnacks@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago

You sound like an American who goes around the world doing Nation building

Abolition, not reform!

[-] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago
[-] M68040@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago

Delete it all. Delete! Delete! Delete!

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Sayori being right and based as usual

[-] gladflag@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Would the new system devolve in the same ways? Maybe the world just has dickheads in it

[-] metaStatic@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago

No, it would find new and interesting ways to be shit

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