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[–] addison@lemmy.world 89 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This sounds like great news!

Firefox is already at the top of my list of preferred browsers on Android, but more extension support has always been on my feature wishlist.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can do that now with a custom extension list

[–] RobotDaniel@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You do need firefox beta rn.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It also works on the Fennec branch for people who want a fully stable build that has full addon support, but yeah this is going to open it up to a lot more people, so hopefully more people will use Firefox

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It also works on the Fennec branch

Is that still supported in some shape or form?

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's just regular Firefox with the addon restrictions and trademarks removed,. That doesn't just magically spawn API support. I thought you meant the 68.x branch which actually had broad extension support and received one additional update over Firefox 68 because the ESR branch was further updated for a bit: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/mozilla/fennec-f-droid/fennec-f-droid-68-12-0-release/

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I so miss FF 68. It was so much better than the current version.

At least some of the missing features from 68 have been restored by now.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In 2023, everyone I know refers to the version I linked as the Fennec branch. I guess I assumed you were too.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was a bit hung up on the term 'branch' because in my understanding Fennec F-Droid falls more under patch set. Mozilla used Fennec as code name for Firefox Mobile before the GeckoView migration and I had hoped the old Fennec branch would live on in some shape or form.

Yeah I'm aware of that name's origins. People use "branch" to describe Waterfox and Mull as well. If you ask about "Fennec branch" in current year, it's what I've linked. Nearly anyone who talks about it is referring to that. Just a heads up.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Its current poor extension support is the reason I've been using Kiwi Browser, which is a basic Chromium build with full extension support, including loading from local storage.

[–] ijeff@lemdro.id 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Same here. I use custom collections on Fennec F-Droid but the inability to properly sideload keeps me on the auto rebased builds of Kiwi Browser. That and support for the black OLED theme and night mode website retheming built in.

Very glad to see this come to Firefox though! Hopefully they can also get those other bits added in.

[–] jayandp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That and Kiwi is the only Android browser with proper developer tools.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

At least when using Kiwi in desktop mode (via Samsung DeX), Kiwi doesn't fill out passwords for me. There also is no interest in supporting Firefox Sync.

[–] Ultra980@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Zak@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That took way too long, but better late than never.

[–] atocci@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It used to be a thing, didn't it? I remember using any PC browser extension I wanted on my phone at some point and I think it was in Firefox.

[–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah it was removed when they rebuilt Firefox Android on a new engine and they deemed the extension system too unreliable at the time.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

It was until FF68, when Mozilla decided that it would improve their market share if they rewrote the whole browser and kicked all their advantages down the drain.

[–] rush@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

They had issues with battery optimization and parity for a while now, but with both those issues being fixed (see: latest nightly) they can finally begin the preparations to rolling out support for ALL extensions :D

[–] millionsofplayers@lemmy.one 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apple needs to allow other browser engines at this point

[–] Mousepad@burggit.moe 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] EddieTee77@lemdro.id 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope. Every browser is basically Safari with a different coat of paint on it. It's very anti competitive and monopolistic if you ask me

[–] Matt@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago

It’s very anti competitive and monopolistic if you ask me

I don't disagree, but while I would love having full Firefox on iOS, the one positive of the current situation is that it is the only thing keeping Google from a complete browser monopoly. Firefox marketshare is insignificant, and without WebKit on iOS devices, Chromium browsers would make up 95% of the browser market. I think that would be worse overall in the long-term than iPhone users being stuck with Safari skins.

I hope they would include addon sideloading as well

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

My ~~body~~ phone is ready.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Super excited! Firefox is already great and this will just make it more great!

[–] RobotToaster@infosec.pub 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

About damn time, they should never have disabled it in the first place.

[–] rush@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

They didn't disable it, they rebuilt the entire browser from scratch to re-base on their current desktop-grade rendering engine, and as a result had to port a lot of things and optimize in regards to android's battery optimization.

They've finally finished doing that and can now begin the preperation for releasing this to the public.

[–] AlmostDachshund@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Is there any hope for third party themes as well?

[–] b1tstremist0@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm just hoping for theming to come back to Firefox on Android. Really not into the new UI design either. (T_T)

[–] kungfuratte@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

That's cool

[–] FarLine99@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Such a cool news! Mozilla, go on!

[–] mawp@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Heck yeah, have about 5 or 6 extensions I use on the desktop version I wanna use on the mobile version!

[–] miniu@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Cool! I've been using Firefox Nightly to workaround extension limitations. I'll be able to switch back to having nicer icon colors xD

I hope that with this being official support some extensions regain full features on mobile. For example, vimperator cannot open tabs on mobile currently(using it with samsung dex)

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 2 points 1 year ago

The key takeaway from this is that they're finally rolling out their Web Manifest v3. I'm super excited

[–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

cries in Firefox on iPad

At least my phone will make use of this.

[–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't Apple announce that they were going to remove restrictions on 3rd party browsers on iPhones and iPads? You might be seeing a Gecko based Firefox soon.

[–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but how soon? Will it be available in my country? I can't know.

[–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I doubt they'd limit it by country, but the question of how soon is very valid. It's one of the reasons why I don't use Apple products. Their stranglehold over the ecosystem is highly annoying.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Don't buy Apple products if you don't agree with their policies.

[–] Tango@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I've been waiting for this!

[–] anon6789@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Good to hear! I've been using using Kiwi, but it would be great if I can use Firefox. I would think security updates would come out quicker.

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