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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 year ago

I dated an "Argentinian" girl in college called Julia Göring. She told me that unlike most families with Nazi related last names, hers decided to keep theirs per her grandmother's insistence.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

One of my relatives was named Adolf. He died in the 1970s.

Everybody in my family is Jewish.

[-] yeather@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

Adolf was an uncommon but not rare name in Germany before the funny guy.

[-] hglman@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Are you talking about Charlie Chaplin?

[-] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

When Hitler was born, Adolf was one of the 50 most popular first names in Germany, even though he wasn’t born in Germany.

[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I can't wait for Kevin to start a genocide

[-] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Well, the more popular a name the likelier it is that some screwed up person has that name.

  • Stalin was a Joseph (Ioseb).
  • Leopold II of Belgium was a Leopold (Léopold), with second names Lewis (Louis) and Philipp (Philippe).
  • Lenin was a Vladimir (Владимир).
  • Obote was a Milton.
  • Mussolini was a Benedict (Benito).
  • Franco was a Francis (Francisco).
  • Tito was a Joseph (Josip).
  • Micombero was a Michael (Michel).
[-] quicksand@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

My boss is named Adolfo and I'm just like why?

[-] Hubi@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago

Göring isn't even such an uncommon name in Germany, there's even a politician of the Green Party currently in parliament with that name.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

His parents came over pre-war, but it blew my mind when I found out the former dictator of Peru (Alberto Fujimori) was of Japanese ancestry.

I mean there's no reason why an ethnically Japanese man can't rule Peru, but it still was not something I expected at all.

Maybe it's just personal prejudice?

[-] yeather@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago

Bro was doing side quests when Japan was fucking up the main game attacking Pearl harbor.

[-] InfiniWheel@lemmy.one 13 points 1 year ago

There's a lot going on with Peru's presidents. Another one was of polish ethnicity, another one shot himself and they recently impeached their 4th(?) president in the last 4 years. Also one of the few places I've seen that has a jail only for ex presidents.

[-] Skelectrician@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 year ago

The first president of Ireland was an American of partial Spanish descent.

[-] SyJ@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago

I don't think you can shit post facts. Know an Argentine girl, last name is so German she's not allowed to cross the Rhineland.

[-] Auduras@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

A picture of Mussolini could work also, so many Argentinians I know have Italian last names (as well as German).

[-] TheControlled@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I knew a Rommel from Mexico. Cool guy. He explained that Rommel was evil, just a General at war. He attempted an assassination plot that failed and he had to choose if he wanted his family to die, or if he should only die. Guess what he chose...

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you meant "wasn't" like the rest of your comment implies, incorrect. Rommel is someone Wehrmacht apologists (or people with his last name) like to make excuses for, but he was a bad, bad dude, if nothing else for being a huge Hitler fanboy well into the Holocaust, of which he was very aware. Hell, supporting the annexation of Austria, Czechoslovakia, and the invasion of Poland by themselves makes you a piece of shit fascist.

He also didn't try to assassinate Hitler, or at least we have no proof for and much against.

If you want some light reading...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rommel_myth

Wikipedia tries to stay unbiased on the topic but the simple reality is the only way a Wehrmacht officer didn't participate in genocide was by being dead in 1938, and if you think a field marshal could have clean hands I have a bridge to sell you.

The Rommel myth has better basis that most but it's still a legacy of Cold War realpolitik as the Allies scrambled to politically justify leaving the monstrous establishments of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan relatively intact to use against the Comintern.

They wanted idiots to say "Well, look at Rommel, the Wehrmacht officer class wasn't ALL bad, we can't execute them all!"

And the plan worked, and to this day Rommel is still remembered as "One of the good Nazis."

[-] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

RIP family but you can always make a new one eh

[-] TheControlled@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Fuck me! I've been bamboozled and my old buddy from Mexico is named after a real son of a bitch. Thanks for educating me!

[-] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That's what they want you to think so they can appear more "Aryan"

[-] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I didn't say it didn't happen, just that it's a lot more uncommon than what Argentinians want you to think

A little weird that they'd look at Nazis and their descendants as something to aspire to. People are a mystery.

[-] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If you think that's crazy you haven't met enough Argentinians

Given what I'm reading in this thread, it sounds like I've met exactly as many Argentinians as I want to.

[-] abii@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Mexicans came from the indian people, Brazilians came from the jungle, but we, the Argentinians came from the boats, and were boats that came from there, Europe. And that's how we built our society."

  • Alberto Fernandez, former president of Argentina

For more context, he said that quoting a singer (i think an argentinian one) 💀

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