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[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 50 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Shortly before 6:30 a.m. Tuesday, Trump took those grievances public, posting on his social media platform eight times within two hours about the deadline, arguing that he shouldn’t have to put up the money and worrying that he “would be forced to mortgage or sell Great Assets, perhaps at Fire Sale prices, and if and when I win the Appeal, they would be gone.”

“Does that make sense? WITCH HUNT. ELECTION INTERFERENCE!” the former president wrote.

I was really hoping for the Chewbacca Defense to make an appearance towards the end there.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"They made Han Solo sell the Millennium Falcon too, yeah, that's right! He got sued by some tentacle-haired flunky and he had to sell it to that woke "Ray" kid for peanuts. What kind of name is "Ray" for a girl, anyway? It's way too butch, if you ask me. They won't like me saying that, but it's true....

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

How does a civil suit by a state, NOT federal, against your company that has been conducting fraud in said state for YEARS, being held accountable [finally] somehow equal election interference?

Unless you were going to use those properties to either gain some kind of advantage in the election, or to enrich yourself with foreign influence dollars post election. 🤔

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He thinks it's election interference because anything that makes him look bad is election interference. Any narrative that he doesn't personally control is unfair.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 4 points 8 months ago

Yeah I get his "thinking", I just don't see why it gets regurgitated by the media and everyone else without a follow up, "How?". Or if you are going to post/print his insane rants it should be right next to the charges he is guilty of and WHY it isn't interference at all.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Perhaps. But I think there's no point in even trying to make sense of his bullshit like that, because it ignores the fact that he is bad faith.

No I didn't mean to say he is operating in bad faith.

I mean everything he does, says, his whole persona, everything about him, near him... His entire existence. It's all bad faith lol. He is the walking embodiment of bad faith.

He makes ever more outrageous claims and repeats it until people are talking about it. It shocks, it puts you on the defensive. It confuses and confounds. It dominates.

It's not a denial or brilliant logic. It's a power move of crude, clumsy, brute force. It's breaking the whole game of statements and denials and counter claims and all that. It's like playing chess and suddenly breaking your opponent's arm and pissing on them.

Because he's too pathetic and stupid to do anything calculating, deliberate, and complex. But the tactic is effective just like some brainless water buffalo stumbling around kicking the heads of predators purely on instinct is effective.

So the shit spewing from his head hole isn't about whether it is true or to be made sense of any more than the mindless flailing of some dumb prey animal is to be analyzed for its Karate technique.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 41 points 8 months ago (1 children)

... arguing that he shouldn’t have to put up the money and worrying that he “would be forced to mortgage or sell Great Assets, perhaps at Fire Sale prices, and if and when I win the Appeal, they would be gone.”

One, they've had plenty of time to gracefully liquidate assets necessary to meet this bond. Surely they could have entered into sale contracts that were contingent on the outcome of the civil trial.

Two, at this stage, the value would not simply disappear; it would be put into an escrow for the bond. Should the appeal be successful, that bond amount is returned.

But why would they need to sell these properties in the first place? Why not just use the properties as collateral for loans, and use the loan value for the bond (and then payment of the judgment when the appeal fails)? Because there's already loans out there that use the properties as collateral - and based on the judgment, probably at highly inflated property values. They can't get loans against the properties. This is what Cohen means when he says "leveraged to the hilt."

This all means that even if the properties get sold, there's little to no equity left in them to use as funding for the bond. I'm willing to bet that Trump's panic is not at all about having to pay the bond amount, and has everything to do with the truth of his actual value being revealed.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So, he's desperate because the whole charade is starting to collapse. Interesting.

Kind of like those movie set facades.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Yep ...there's no way he's got 500m or more in equity anywhere even mal.
Rnc coffers are next.

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 41 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Let the ketchup hit the wall, Let the ketchup hit the wall….

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Let the ketchup hit the tsss tsss

WAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[–] bazus1@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

ONE got no cash to give
TWO got no cash to give
THREE got no cash to give

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Leticia James isn't buying it. “There is nothing unusual about even billion-dollar judgments being fully bonded on appeal.”

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Former President Donald Trump is in panic mode as the deadline approaches to secure a half-billion-dollar bond to appeal his civil fraud case in New York, according to multiple sources familiar with his thinking.

Privately, Trump had been counting on Chubb, which underwrote his $91.6 million bond to cover the E. Jean Carroll judgment, to come through, but the insurance giant informed his attorneys in the last several days that that option was off the table.

The presumptive GOP presidential nominee himself has become increasingly concerned about the optics the March 25 deadline could present – especially the prospect that someone whose identity has long been tied to his wealth would confront financial crisis.

Shortly before 6:30 a.m. Tuesday, Trump took those grievances public, posting on his social media platform eight times within two hours about the deadline, arguing that he shouldn’t have to put up the money and worrying that he “would be forced to mortgage or sell Great Assets, perhaps at Fire Sale prices, and if and when I win the Appeal, they would be gone.”

“President Trump has filed a motion to stay the unjust, unconstitutional, un-American judgment from New York Judge Arthur Engoron in a political Witch Hunt brought by a corrupt Attorney General.

But his lawyers told the New York appeals court on Monday that he has approached 30 underwriters to back the bond, and the former president himself said on Truth Social he thought it was “practically impossible” for him to post the amount.


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[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It would be hilarious if they end up going after Trump Tower, his penthouse appartment and Mar-a-lago first.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

And evicted his ass. Put Trump on the street!

[–] ryrybang@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Nothing is going to happen. Some court/judge will step in just before the deadline, says this needs a stay despite the lack of an official appeal request from the defendent. It will need a close examination due to "the historical nature of the case" or some such bullshit. Schedule a review date in October 2024, which will get rescheduled to 2025 because reasons. Then Trump will go spouting everywhere that he beat the courts and "won" his case.

This guy is part of the protected class, for whatever reason.

I hope I'm wrong. But I know, deep down in my plums I'm right.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

LOL, that's not how any of this works. Judges don't get out of bed in the morning and go looking for cases to fuck with. And this case is over, it is no longer in front of any court.

Even if you somehow don't believe that, Trump sure does. Why do you think he lashing out and shitting his pants?

[–] ryrybang@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

For the record, the predictions in my comment have started. Severely reduced bond amount and an extra 10 days. The appeals court stepped in, even without an appeal.

[–] CareHare@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

Hot damn the prediction man.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

You were wrong.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm saving this comment since I'm afraid you're right, downvotes be damned.

It's headed to appeal, it's not over.

[–] ryrybang@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It has started :(

Trump is above the law.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago