It gets really good after the first 31 episodes : memes

[-] Vlyn@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

Not just for series, this is the same with games.

"The first 50 hours of Final Fantasy 14 suck, but the expansions afterwards are worth it!"

"The game starts at max level!"

I can't stand it. And it's not like the game magically gets much better, it just feels pretty okay for someone who just wasted months of their time on the bad parts. Of course you'll enjoy mediocre parts later on after suffering through that crap.

A game has to start being fun ten minutes after the tutorial tops. Why play it otherwise?

[-] bane_killgrind@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

For PvP centric games they absolutely get better at max level. You finally are at parity for numbers, and so skill plays a larger role.

[-] DrQuint@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I find PvP games with unlockables and grindables to be the opposite of a good time.

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[-] PixxlMan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

This is exactly why I hate PvP games with unlockables. Just put everyone on a level playing field from the start, à la CSGO etc.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

“The game starts at max level!”

Diablo 4 fans be like

[-] Vlyn@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Nah, Diablo 4 is much more fun when leveling from 1 to 70 or so. 70 - 100 is just doing the same things over and over with barely any rewards. It's the other way around there, leveling is fun, endgame is dogshit.

Usually "game starts at max level" is used for MMOs like WoW. Where all the leveling is seen as annoying bullshit fetch quests and at max level you do dungeons and raids.

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[-] jimmux@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

Conversely, too many good games get bad reviews because of lacking endgame. So go play the next thing in your overflowing backlog. Some games do what they came for, and that's fine.

It's like giving a bad movie review because the concession stand was closed when you left the cinema.

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[-] Dettweiler42@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

Also, the episodes are an hour long each...

[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 20 points 1 year ago

And each season is 20 episodes

[-] JimmyDean@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's like they suffer from "sunk cost fallacy" but with entertainment.

'I've already watched 30 episodes of this show... But I can't stop now. Not until it gets good!'

[-] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago

I recently watched a video called Why Do We Play Games We Hate? I feel it applies to other media as well.

The thing that stuck out to me was that some people don't feel ready to decide whether or not they like something until they've totally completed the experience. They feel it isn't fair to judge the partial product, so they'll stick it out through the end, even if it's terrible, just so they say without a doubt they did not like it.

I can understand the mentality, but sometimes you have to just jump ship.

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[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

I have a friend who grimly stuck it out through Wheel of Time long after he stopped enjoying it out of completionism.

Screw that.

[-] Domriso@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

For books, I get it. I feel a deep compulsion to finish any book I start, whether I like it or not.

For television shows? Nah, I'll stop right away if I get bored.

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[-] ElPussyKangaroo@lemdro.id 34 points 1 year ago

One Piece fans lmao.

[-] Uli@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 year ago

This week's episode is actually really good. You just have to watch the other 1071 episodes first and I swear you'll like it.

[-] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 18 points 1 year ago

I think that's just called Stockholm Syndrome.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Just spend a month’s free time doing nothing but reading manga and you’ll be fine. Wait shit that was how long it took 8 years ago when I was last caught up

[-] eupraxia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago

My GF loves One Piece, she started me at just one episode quite a ways in - the one with Bink's Sake - basically just to say "hey look, this story is actually going somewhere". Then we started at like episode 60 or so and kept watching from there - it's definitely a lot rougher, but I'm hooked enough now to watch it with her!

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[-] EthanolParty@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 1 year ago

I enjoyed even the first season of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, but it really starts to pick up in Season 2 when they introduce Danny DeVito's character. Well, it really starts to pick up when his character evolves into trash goblin mode in like Season 3/4. Well okay actually seasons 5/6/7 are where it gets REALLY good!

[-] SneakyWeasel@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Me with Bojack. I straight up tell most folks to skip the first 5 episodes and start with 1-6. The jump in quality the show does when it gets to "The Telescope" is staggering, it doesn't feel like the same show.

[-] big_slap@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

let me start on episode 6 and get back to you.

[-] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

The first few episodes of Bojack were super rough. I think I had a friend that loved the first few episodes and fell off as the show went on.

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[-] BananaPeal@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago

This is season 1 of Parks and Recreation. It didn't really start to get it's footing until season 2. I'm glad I stuck with it, so many great characters!

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah, S1 was trying to be the office too much. The camera shots and everyone's delivery was just off a bit.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Just has to grow its beard.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago

And Rikers Beard is glorious.

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[-] ares35@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

so that's why streaming shows suck, they rarely make it that far.

[-] rebelappliance@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago

After GoT and all the cancelled shows on Netflix, Prime, etc. I refuse to get into a show until it has a few seasons under it's belt. Nothing like getting invested in a show only for them to cancel it.

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

I'm the same way but it's quite the catch 22 considering if people don't want the first season or two it's unlikely they'll make another

[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 11 points 1 year ago

I avoid shows until they are finished completely

[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I avoid shows until all the actors playing the main characters are dead. Got into Golden Girls about a year and a half ago, and I figure I'll be watching Friends from a retirement home.

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[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Shit, if a show doesn’t interest me after 30 minutes I’m done with it. If the story only gets interesting after the forced exposition dump part of the script, then the script needed more work before they filmed it. In my opinion anyway.

[-] Roundcat@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

I was sold the moment bug aliens took over Starfleet, and Picard and Riker blew Commander Remmik the fuck up!

[-] Surp@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Every Star Trek ds9 and tng person ever

[-] cinda@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago

on my first watch of tng i straight up just jumped to s3 or 4, you pick up what you need pretty quick and skip to the good part

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Guilty

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[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

I actually liked the first season of TNG.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Me too. It's a fun watch, getting introduced to everything. It just had the poor luck of being the least polished season of one of the best shows ever made.

[-] Roundcat@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Same here. I like the more OG feel the first and second season have, and some of the characters that are only there for those seasons. RIP Tasha Yar 😥

[-] Doug@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago

In all fairness that actress showed up fairly often for playing a dead character

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[-] stochasticity@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I was told to stick it out one more season for each season of breaking bad. Watched the whole show and it never got better. I hated it.

[-] Vlyn@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Seriously? Breaking Bad was awesome all things considered. But if you are not hooked by season 1 you won't like it, period.

The middle part of the series was a drag, too many filler episodes. Strong start, strong end, but if you don't like the start don't even bother.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

Better Call Saul was all killer no filler baby.

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[-] Shurf116@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Yep, went the same route myself. I'm looking at you, Critical Role campaign 1 👀

But for others I always recommend start with the 3rd now.

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[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

[off topic]

I started reading Neal Stephenson's book 'Anathem.' Threw it down after twenty pages, because it was just ridiculous. A few months later someone told me to stick with it, the plot really starts coming together around page 200.

Yes, I read it, and yes, it takes 200 pages to start making sense.

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[-] zanzibar@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

This image is fucking with me because the way it's drawn reminds me a lot of Family Guy, and Family Guy is one of those rare cases where this concept is inverted and the show starts going to shit after season 3.

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[-] Dee@lemmings.world 6 points 1 year ago

This is Picard for me. I thought season one was alright, season two was hot garbage, but season three is what star trek fans had been waiting for all these years. Perfect conclusion, but boy was it rough getting there lol

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