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[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 26 points 7 months ago (5 children)

That was known on day 1

Whatever made us throw France under the bus must have been pretty fucking good and also had nothing to do with Subs.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Whatever made us throw France under the bus

US interference in the form of diplomatic extortion is my bet.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 5 points 7 months ago

As soon as I read "diesel," I guessed that.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 7 points 7 months ago

Mostly the conservatives being unable to think beyond Bush-era “cheese-eating surrender monkeys” stereotypes, I’d bet

[–] YungOnions@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] tristan@aussie.zone 19 points 7 months ago

Even more ironic is a bunch of the delays were caused by Australia demanding the French change the designs from nuclear to diesel

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

It was scomo he’s a dumb cunt

[–] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

On an unrelated matter. France needs to be thrown under the bus from time to time. They need the constant pressure of revolution to function properly.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago

They need the constant ~~pressure of~~ revolution to function properly.

Looking at the last 250 years of history, FTFY

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 13 points 7 months ago

Oh, this looks interesting! Written by... malcom turnball? No thank you.

[–] Gbagginsthe3rd@aussie.zone 6 points 7 months ago

Yay, also means through AUKUS that we are America’s little bitch. Lets hope Taiwan stays just friends with China.

Otherwise whoops, I guess all those military bases in Australia that the Americans use will become priority targets. Next minute I’m forced to hunt CCP tunnels in Taiwan wondering if I’m gonna be Vietconged

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago
[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Scott Morrison’s big idea in Aukus was to cancel a submarine construction program with France which would have given us new boats to replace the Collins-class subs as they retired in the 2030s, with a partnership to build new (as yet design incomplete) nuclear-powered “Aukus SSN” submarines with the UK assisted by the United States, the first of which would not be available, assuming all went on time, until the 2040s.

The Aukus legislation passed by Congress last December specifically states that submarines cannot be sold to Australia unless the president certifies that their sale will not detract from the needs of the US navy.

It is set out, in considerable detail, in an official research paper prepared by the US Congress and is described as a “Military Division of Labor” whereby Australia would have no submarines.

Trump will no doubt be bemused that we would spend money on expanding HIS country’s industrial base rather than our own (and even more amazed we are sending a similar amount to the UK to support the construction of the Aukus SSNs).

There was a window of opportunity to do that after the election of the Albanese government, but it resolved to stick with Morrison’s policy and the risks it carried.

At the time Aukus was announced I was concerned the nuclear-powered submarines, using weapons-grade uranium provided by the US or the UK, would not be able to be operated without foreign supervision and support.


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