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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/13716493

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 128 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Flesh eating bacteria. Brain eating ameba. Snakes. Gators. Snapping turtles. Mosquitoes by the trillion.

That's a no for me dawg.

[–] stelelor@lemmy.ca 53 points 7 months ago (2 children)

And leeches. Can't forget the leeches.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago

Didnt know landlords started buying up swamps, damn

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Lepsea@sh.itjust.works 19 points 7 months ago

Flesh eating bacteria. Brain eating ameba

I was wondering if I would find this in lemmy because I found it in almost every post on Instagram that is similar to the photo.

I understand the fear but you're more likely to die from drowning in the swamp than from flesh eating bacteria and brain eating amoeba

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[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 79 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Blackout@kbin.run 39 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Getting leeches on your balls kinda sucks. On one hand you want to rip them off but on the other hand you are lonely and it's been a while since anything's touched them. ¯\(ツ)

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 14 points 7 months ago

Hey, we're not judging. You do you.

[–] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 58 points 7 months ago (1 children)

mosquitos and malaria endorse this message!

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 18 points 7 months ago

Hungry gator wants to know your location

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 48 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Nasty insects, nasty animals, nasty diseases, nasty humidity. Yeah go on mate, tell us how cool swamps are

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 54 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But swamps are cool, but you’re also very right they’re gross and I would much rather observe from afar or from a picture

[–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

While swamps seem “gross” they are actually the cleanest things in nature.

Wetlands are massive water quality processors, they are the opposite of dirty or gross, though I completely understand that feeling that stomping through thick mud is gross.

[–] Waterdoc@lemmy.ca 34 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Clean is relative, there are lots of contaminants in wetland water that make it unsafe. They are incredibly important and very useful for naturally cleaning water, but please don't drink the swamp water.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

please don’t drink the swamp water.

You're not the boss of me.

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[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Handle checks out. Lol swamps definitely cleaner than your average dumpster!

I think the unsettling thing is that the whole biome is crawling or buzzing. Feeling like inhaling will choke you on a gnat cloud, every surface has some grouchy venomous thing that'll stick ya, and that "log" over there is just waiting for something to death-roll today, as it floats across murky water you can't see under.

Fascinating and IMPORTANT places! But I can see why they're not exactly attractive for humans.

[–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

True I don’t mean to insinuate there aren’t dangerous creatures in swamps, they are the cities of nature, you find everything there.

Like human cities though, there is a safety in the crowd, in the wild variety of different forms and tendencies. It means that no particular process or force is likely to swing wildly out of control, no animal is going to overrun the swamp. If the swamp becomes full of some icky animal, let’s say cockroaches (or imagine locusts in a landscape of monoculture agriculture), then the swamp will soon become full of bullfrogs and other predators and only somewhat full of cockroaches lol. Things are smoothed out in a very complex way that makes swamps a much “safer” environment than you might expect because the constant ecological conversation between everything in the swamp keeps things in check.

What happens when that system breaks down is like what you see with ticks in the eastern US. The general hardwood landscapes of the east have had their ecological engine thrown so far out of whack (doesn’t help that the two most titular, climax species of eastern US hardwoods, Elms and Chestnuts are functionally extinct in the wild from diseases introduced by Europeans) that tick populations are skyrocketing along with tick borne diseases. The forests are not functioning like a swamp where an element going too far out of whack is inevitably mediated by another element. If you live in a place like I grew up in SE New England it has gotten so bad you can’t really go for a walk in the woods without becoming covered in ticks. This was NOT something my parents generation had to worry about, ticks were like leeches, something awful you very infrequently encountered in the wild. Not a daily risk on your health.

It is no coincidence that so many freshwater wetlands were erased wholesale from the landscape of America, filled in, polluted beyond function or destroyed. It is tragically poetic that North America's most impressive city, Mexico City, was built around an ancient and complex interweaving of humans with a wetland, the Spanish Conquistadors were too primitive to understand complex technology though and drained most of it (well, many of them probably did and the violence to the landscape was a feature not a bug). The nutrient efficiency and sophistication of aqua-cultural techniques developed in concert with a surrounding lake/wetland must have been incredibly impressive (look into chinampas ), remember we are talking about the same people who somehow bred basic-ass meadow grass into corn, which the more you look into the breeding and development of the more bewildered you get.

I think the unsettling thing is that the whole biome is crawling or buzzing. Feeling like inhaling will choke you on a gnat cloud, every surface has some grouchy venomous thing that’ll stick ya

Without the cities of the forest, without healthy freshwater wetlands, the ecological web between animals, plants, nutrients and resources has become fragile to stresses like climate change. The landscape of SE New England has become absolutely covered in ticks in exactly the same creepy way that thinking about being covered in bugs in a swamp makes you feel, and it is because we destroyed the swamps.

That is what I mean when I say swamps are the cleanest places in nature.

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[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

That actually interesting tho

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 5 points 7 months ago

That sounds kinda like saying "dishwater is clean". It's used in cleaning, but I wouldn't call it clean

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 months ago

Volcanoes are cool too but I'm not gonna take a dip in one

[–] malean@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Shrek lived in a swamp and I trust his taste

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[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 35 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's a reason swamps are portrayed that way. They're generally unpleasant to be in for a variety of reasons. Just like being in a cold, dark, wet cave full of spider webs.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 12 points 7 months ago

And being dangerous or unpleasant doesn't make those places devoid of beauty!

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 7 months ago

Swamps are good, but as a Pacific-Northwesterner I prefer my wetlands in the form of a marshes and fens. I'd love a good bog though.

[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Me, an intellectual: swamps are beautiful and wonderful because they can be tapped for one black mana.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Have sex with me immediately

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

are leeches not a concern?

[–] CassowaryTom@lemmy.one 16 points 7 months ago

Could not be happier for you. I'm afraid of snapping turtles and the like, but if I weren't a little bitch I would jump in

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

I mean yeah they're pretty but you're still gonna get dysentery, cholera, E. Coli, and 3-5 undiscovered parasites

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This guy is so cool. Really sees the beauty of Florida.

He waited years for one photo

[–] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Florida is beautiful. It's a damn shame about the culture that's developed there.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

I live here and it's fine in the cities, they just have us gerrymandered to shit. And yes, I grew up here and never saw the beauty until I left for awhile and came back.

[–] LonelyWendigo@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Clyde Butcher is one of the greatest American landscape photographers since Ansel Adams and a true hero of modern naturalism. Not only does he hike out into the swamp under conditions that would make most here wilt like cotton candy in the rain (see other comments), he often does it with camera equipment that is ancient, heavy, and bulky by today's standards.

The biggest danger in the Everglades isn't leeches (not at all common), brain eating amoebas (just keep your head above water), snakes (most would rather just slither away), snapping turtles (only aggressive when trapped), or gators (generally slow, predictable, dumb, and avoidable); it's ignorance. The swamp isn't a place into which you'd want to be dropped off unprepared and unequipped, but neither is LA of New York City. Clive Butcher walks the line between tough man and sensitive artist, cottage-core and goblin-core, Lorax and Crocodile Dundee.

Clive Butcher also did a landscape photography series of Salvador Dali's home town that really opened my eyes about the scenes and settings in many of Dali's paintings. It becomes clear that although surreal, many of the landscapes in Dali's paintings are actually surprisingly real places painted literally but adorned with surreal characters and objects.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago

Photo taken 4 minutes before completely sinking

[–] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

blew my mind when I first learned how useful bogs used to be for living off the land. preserves food and wood, tans leather, gives you fuel, great for foraging, etc

like where else can you find thousands of year old butter that is perfectly good to eat?

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

He will be missed.

[–] heavy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I think my black MTG lands are all beautiful already

[–] JoMomma@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

What does Margarine Trailer Greens have to do with this?

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[–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

All of my knowledge on bayous comes from hunt:showdown and my future decisions regarding waterlogged terrain will be based on an acute expectation of demonic incursion.

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