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'Boys are disappearing' from mental health care, as signs of depression and anxiety go undetected (www.nbcnews.com)
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Research found while antidepressant prescriptions have risen dramatically in the US for teenage girls and women in their 20s, the rate of such prescriptions for young men “declined abruptly during March 2020 and did not recover.”

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[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 80 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Contrary to the pretty lies we like to say here in the US, "There's help if you need it/you matter/don't be afraid to get help" There are no meaningful resources to help those not attached to meaningful capital, and seeking help will almost certainly leave you with more problems than you started with.

And if you're a man, you'll also be ridiculed for it.

We made a society that works against itself to the point that we eagerly send the biggest losers out to die of exposure under a freeway, of course screaming "time out please I give up I need help" isn't going to end well for you.

I wish at the very least we could be honest with ourselves and cut out the patronizing, cutesy lies that we say to absolve ourselves of the guilt of our society's cruelty.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

I agree with the first paragraph as my own experience with a much-needed year of therapy left me in debt

I disagree with the second sentence entirely. Even my very conservative father supported me going. There's tons of terrible men in this country but we need to stop perpetuating the myth that every man in the US has a fratboy mentality.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

There are no meaningful resources to help those not attached to meaningful capital

This is not true. I received lots of free counseling and psychologist treatment when I was on medi-cal, both as a child and as an adult. You do need to seek it out to receive it.

[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Medi-Cal is the state of California's Medicaid implementation. It is only available to residents of California and even within the state, its usefulness varies widely.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That's true, but other states have their own versions of the program, with similar coverage. I'm sure there are differences, but I don't know the extent of the differences. I would like to think that they're minor, since it's a federally funded program, but who knows. States like Texas seem to always circumvent my expectations.

[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I’m sure there are differences, but I don’t know the extent of the differences. I would like to think that they’re minor, since it’s a federally funded program, but who knows.

Unfortunately, you are wrong in this case. Medicaid coverage and funding vary significantly between states, as can be seen here: https://www.medicaid.gov/state-overviews/index.html

Coverage has improved in most states since 2020, but few states try to implement Medicaid as comprehensively as California, and several implement it as minimally as possible without violating federal law.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well that's super disappointing to hear. I grew up poor and on welfare, but I was always able to get medical care and counseling because of that program. Every state in the nation should offer that to people who need it.

[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, Medi-Cal has a ton of problems (like paying healthcare providers way less than they earn from every other insurance plan) and its county-by-county administration is a bit wonky, but it has been a boon to me as well.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Yes, they definitely pay less and are a pain for doctors to deal with. As a result, we were never able to see any of the best doctors, since they just refused to accept medi-cal. But I was always able to get treatment. I would have been SOL without it as a kid, because I was always getting injured due to sports and adrenaline seeking.

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I would like to think that they’re minor, since it’s a federally funded program

This is the sort of thing you'd only ever hear from a resident of California. I can assure you it is never so easy in a red state.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I did acknowledge that could be the case in the following sentence.

[–] FunkyMonk@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago

I aint religious but Amen.

[–] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yall call this civilization? We might have spaceships and cellphones, however we can't help but crush some strangers head with a rock and take all their shit. It's just now its through the economic system or the justice system.

[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago

Instructions unclear, what should I do with this bloody rock?

[–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 34 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

My experiences with mental healthcare have been laughably inept. You can get better therapy in the worst game of DnD you'll ever play.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My experience is always different than anyone else. Everyone else in my ward wound up loving it and saying how it was the most important thing and it's a great place.

For me, I never had a constant therapist and was swapped around with no one keeping notes. It was all group therapy and I hated repeating myself all the time. Everything felt like a cash grab. Most of the therapists and people there seemed to have to take on a lot of work. I was lucky in that my insurance was paying for it all but the bills were insanely high.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago

It was all group therapy and I hated repeating myself all the time.

My experience was similar.

You go to therapy to be listened to, and instead you end repeating yourself 100 times because nobody is fucking listening. It was legitimately more frustrating than not going, because I was literally paying money to have someone listen to me and they still couldn't fucking do it.

[–] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

Who is going to pay for this luxurious mental health care?

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

“We have this very classic understanding of depression as being sad, being tearful, crying more, not eating as much and losing weight,” said Dr. Lauren Teverbaugh, pediatrician and child psychiatrist at Tulane University in New Orleans.

Dr. Kao-Ping Chua, a pediatrician at the Susan B. Meister Child Health Evaluation and Research Center at the University of Michigan, led the study.

Parents, pediatricians and even psychiatrists may not pick up on mental health problems in boys, Uchida said, because “they don’t fit the stereotypical image of depression.”

Dr. Willough Jenkins, a psychiatrist and the medical director of emergency and consultation liaison psychiatry at Rady Children’s Hospital in San Diego, blamed, in part, a societal normalization of teenage angst and irritability.

“They’re a really good measure for being able to pick up on something that is beyond the norm.” Teverbaugh and other experts said that many referrals for boys seeking mental health treatment stem from behavioral issues in school.

Mass General’s Uchida — a mother of three young boys — encourages parents to permit sons to express their sadness and frustrations.

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