Palestinian Fatah group says Iran trying to spread chaos in West Bank (www.reuters.com)

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[-] blahsay@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Iran trying to expand the conflict? Shocked I am! Shocked

[+] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social -6 points 6 months ago

Uh... Fatah is an Israeli and US puppet, has been for at least 18 years. This isn't the gotcha you think it is.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This has been an intentional tactic since the Oslo Accords MEE, NYT, Haaretz, AJ

History of peace process

But the PA’s biggest weakness is that it has had to operate on a false assumption. When the PA itself was created in 1994, Palestinian leaders promoted it as a transitional body in a diplomatic process after the Oslo accords that would lead to statehood. Yet the collapse of any worthwhile peace diplomacy and the dwindling prospects of a two-state solution have deprived the PA of its raison d’etre.

As a result, the PA ended up being viewed by Palestinians increasingly as a security sub-contractor for Israel, and in the name of fighting terrorism often imposed arbitrary justice in the West Bank. Lawyers for Justice, a group that documents just such arbitrary justice cases, estimated that in 2022 alone the PA arrested more than 500 Palestinians for anti-Israeli offences. The alternative, the PA argued, would be a third intifada and the collapse of the PA.

This has all taken a massive toll on the PA’s reputation. Respected opinion polling by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research shows that days before the Hamas assault on Israelis 80% of Palestinians considered the PA corrupt, and 62% viewed it as a liability rather than an asset. None of its main institutions enjoys popular legitimacy.

Corrupt, discredited: could a reformed Palestinian Authority run Gaza? - The Guardian

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

It's not popular because it's not extreme enough. They want Hamas.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

They want emancipation.

You want to think of them as violent and unreasonable so you can justify Israel's ethnic cleansing, apartheid, and genocide.

[-] aiccount@monyet.cc 9 points 6 months ago

Hundreds of Palestinians have been killed by Israeli forces since the start of the war in Gaza last October

I feel like I haven't heard a number this low since the end of October. I've been hearing >30,000 lately. Am I mistaken or something? I thought Reuters is supposed to generally do a pretty good job. What's the deal?

[-] Pirasp@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

This might be a number for the west bank? Idk, but the toll in Gaza is definitely orders of magnitude higher.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 10 points 6 months ago

I haven't read the article but this is 99.99% talking about the West Bank, where this is a ridiculously large number.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago

Y'know, I'm not a fan of Iran. I'd buy this if it wasn't Fatah (Israeli and US puppet if anyone isn't up to date) saying it.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 5 points 6 months ago

Fatah (Israeli and US puppet

Fucking lmao.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

I could explain but I'll just link this:

https://kbin.social/m/world@lemmy.world/t/940514/Palestinian-Fatah-group-says-Iran-trying-to-spread-chaos-in#entry-comment-6025117

[-] mydude@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago

YeS, irAn iS trYinG to sPreaD cHAoS...

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