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The latest PlayStation Portal update has supposedly addressed an exploit that allowed PlayStation Portable (PSP) games to be emulated natively on the streaming handheld.

This is according to a recent X / Twitter post by Andy Nguyen that was first spotted by VGC. An employee at Google, Nguyen previously claimedthat they were part of a small team that was able to get PSP games running offline on the PlayStation 5 peripheral via some hacking and the open-source emulator PPSSPP.

Now, however, Nguyen says that the exploit they used to get the software installed and running has been patched after they “responsibly reported the issues to PlayStation.” This alleged change comes as part of the latest PS Portal software update, version 2.0.6.

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[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 192 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In my culture that is considered a dick move.

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

In my dick, that’s considered uncultured

My dick is in your mom's culture. ^(sorry, couldn't resist)^

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 1 points 7 months ago

If you've got culture growing in your dick then you should see a physician and ask for a referral to a specialist.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 95 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, let's make sure all exploits are patched before the device inevitably becomes obsolete in a couple of years, so we can throw it away and buy the next version instead of not being wasteful.

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 40 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That thing came out of the gates obsolete

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 7 months ago

It is bizarre that Sony have a whole game streaming platform, and their game streaming device that does literally nothing else won't connect to it.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 1 points 7 months ago

I've never even heard of it TBH.

[–] stevestevesteve@lemmy.world 55 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

"Responsible reporting" is for security vulnerabilities... It's extremely hard for me to believe that jailbreaks like this should be considered security vulnerabilities, especially if it's something local-only or otherwise limited to something only the owner of the device would feasibly be able to do.

Does anyone believe the portable is actually a more secure device now than it was before this patch?

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 45 points 7 months ago

Unfortunately, the way that jailbreaks are done is by exploiting actual security vulnerabilities. So yes, responsibly reporting them is the right thing to do.

Our ire here should be for Sony, for not supporting this through an official safe method. Not for security researchers just doing security research.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I believe it‘s less secure now because it‘s future became more uncertain. How can we be sure it won‘t become a glorified brick the moment servers shut down?

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is normal MO for Alex, and follows computer ethics guidelines for someone attaching this stuff to his real identity. He's very active in this scene, especially in recent years with Sony hardware.

Also, keeping gaming devices on old firmware to wait is an incredibly normal requirement for cracks and homebrew stuff.

Sony has a pretty good bug bounty program. He'll usually report it to Sony, post something on social media telling people to hold off on updating firmware past the vulnerable level, and then it's up to Sony to fix what is a legitimate security issue. You wouldn't want a rogue developer hiding something in a game and turning your device into part of their botnet. Once Sony confirms it's a legitimate vulnerability, he gets paid the bounty, Sony patches the exploit, and the details of the vuln are released and homebrew tools follow shortly after.


Everyone is acting like if he didn't report it to Sony, and instead released it directly to the open internet, they'd somehow magically never know. That's complete and utter delusion.

The only time stuff like this hits the open net and doesn't get patched anyway is when devices are past the end of support, or if the vulnerability is so deep into the design or hardware that it can't be patched.

Wii exploits rely on issues with the physical chips themselves that can't be patched in software. Same with 3DS. PSPs rely on exploits in the recovery/factory mode/menu functionality, some of which was intentionally held back from release until after Sony stopped caring. I'm pretty sure the exploits with first gen Switches rely on a hardware flaw as well.

Point being, if you released this as a hacking tool first, Sony still patches it. The only thing you do is maybe delay their patch by a short few weeks, ruin any professional reputation connected to the identity used to release it, put yourself in the crosshairs of potentially life ruining legal trouble as they try to unmask your real identity, and miss out on a cool payout.

There's people who have been arrested for this shit for years and fined such crazy amounts of money that they will never pay it off. Stupid, but not worth the fucking risk when you can just do it this way.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

Are you suggesting that the majority of the comments in this thread are from people who have no idea what they're talking about? On Lemmy? Unheard of!

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 31 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This proves that ps portal is actually could be a capable handheld. Shame, it probably got enough processing power to run vita games. It has an adreno 610 gpu, which is much more powerful than vita's gpu.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The Portal is such a weird device. I really don't understand why anyone would want one, but it's not like I'm the arbiter of what's useful and what's not

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'd be interested if it was cheaper or could double as a PSP/Vita.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 9 points 7 months ago

or could double as a PSP/Vita.

Not anymore it can't

[–] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It would have been without the proprietary memory card that never went cheap. I still need to mod my PSTV to make it usable.

[–] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Was there any? I don't remember I remember only memory cards for games, but I already had everything on the psn account and PS+

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The memory sticks for downloading games. I think the biggest was a 64 GB one that was like $200. But this was well after micro SD cards became super cheap and games were bigger than they were on the PSP.

[–] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

Damn, I really can't remember any 🥲

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 7 points 7 months ago

I really thought that they are just gonna sell non of them. Apparently there is a market.

[–] CorrodedCranium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 7 months ago

I'm not surprised. TheFloW has done this before with PS4/5 exploits . A lot of players don't update their firmware in the hopes they'll be able to run something like HEN.

[–] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fun fact, Nguyen is a family name

It's the most popular family name in Vietnam, 30-39%

[–] ma11en@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's a clue in the text as his first name is Andy.

[–] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

Second, second to be precise

In Vietnamese the family name goes first, so Nguyen Andy 😂

[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'm really confused by the guy's responses to people. Like he seems to think that it's somehow not possible to tell people before letting Sony know directly first or something? He then tells people that it's fine they just need to avoid updating their firmware, before discovering that it's impossible to avoid that when you first boot the device from factory...

"It's only a few weeks of difference!" he says when he of all people should know that's an age in the modding scene.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] CorrodedCranium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Didn't they produce a lot of content in the Vita modding scene?

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

My understanding is that this is basically a "hey guys I let Sony know about this exploit, so you should totally make sure your systems stay fully up to date so that when details on how to use this exploit are released, you won't be able to use it"

Sarcasm italicized

Excuse me, waiter, this take is too hot.

[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

haha I break ps portal haha here take the vulnerability don't sue me