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(Tasnim) Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi cautioned the Zionist regime to avoid further adventurism, lest it receive a blow much harder than the lawful retaliatory strike (procial.tchncs.de)
submitted 7 months ago by sordid@procial.tchncs.de to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml
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(Tasnim) Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi cautioned the Zionist regime to avoid further adventurism, lest it receive a blow much harder than the lawful retaliatory strike

that Iran launched against the Israeli military targets early Sunday.

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[–] sordid@procial.tchncs.de 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

i would simply not be emotionally invested in the powerlessness and ineffectuality of the resistance to the point i start uncritically consuming western media at the moment it is least likely to tell the truth

all the reports are saying

are you kidding me dude? oh wait this is dot world. makes sense, this could be a reddit comment it sucks that much.
did you hear about Yemen laying waste to Eilat or expanding their blockade into the Indian Ocean?? probably not.
just got finished talking with an Israeli arguing they are both "made invincible by the IDF" and "harmed" by fear of "Iranian joke rockets". air defense isn't magic, the good systems we have just spam $2M rockets over and over at $2000 drones

Now Israel gets a greenlight for its genocide

they already have it

the USA comes to the rescue to finish the job

they're already there

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yeah okay fine I'll wait a week to see if any actual damage was dealt, which I doubt not because of the reports but because I didn't expect them to.

Iran is just another joke of a military power, they couldn't even make their own nukes after Pakistan gave them the instruction booklet because Israel had a free hand in destroying their progress because as stated Iran’s military is just as incompetent as every other arab nation.

The IDF isn't invincible, they have several known weaknesses that Hamas has been exploiting.

did you hear about Yemen laying waste to Eilat or expanding their blockade into the Indian Ocean??

Of course I have, I've been making offhand comments in both ml and world about how the Houthis are the only faction that has a functioning plan, especially compared to Iran, despite being funded by Iran.

I already predicted more than a week ago that Iran was barely gonna accomplish anything or bother to use actual firepower like their airforce for fear of combat losses.

This attack is lamer than when India tossed some bombs on an abandoned shed in 2019 to provoke Pakistan. It accomplished nothing in terms of physical damage, and it backfired internationally when the PAF shot down and captured their pilot.

Israel will do just the same and suddenly Iran is going to be looking really stupid for not actually doing anything.

And no, it won't escalate either because Iran will magically sing a different tune when they're faced with actual fighting just like every other arab nation has. They don't have the capability nor the resolve to force Israel into a disadvantageous position.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 7 months ago

You're really going to have to withhold judgment on damage reports from entities with deeply vested interests both domestically and internationally to not talk about damage. From the video footage, it looks like damage was done to military targets deep inside Israel and that's all that's needed. The prevailing Israeli strategic hypothesis was that their air defense prevented Iran from striking inside Israel without exposing itself. The video footage appears to invalidate this hypothesis. For a very paltry amount of money, Iran causes Israeli air defense to consume hundreds of millions of dollars of materiel and still fail to stop the attack. A slightly larger attack will therefore do more damage, and a coordinated multi-actor attack will do even more. That's all the victory Iran needed, it broke the taboo of attacking Israel directly, it broke the hypothesis of impenetrability, and it did so while giving Israel advanced warning. Remember, during the strike, the skies in Gaza were quiet because Israel downed its entire air force.

No, Iran did not launch a decapitation attack, no it didn't launch a massive attack. It launched a precisely measured attack and it was the most cost effective attack we've seen so far. Couple this with Iran seizing a massive Israeli shipping vessel and gathering support from allies, and this is a major development in the conflict.

It will be Israel, the USA, and Western Europe who will expand this conflict, and that will bring further international condemnation and collaboration. If Iran went significantly bigger, not only would it risk strategic depletion, it would also be more politically ambiguous for its allies and future allies.

But all accounts except for total damage done, this was a successful operation.

[–] sordid@procial.tchncs.de 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

more defeatism and crap about how the resistance is pathetic except for a random redeeming quality. fine, let's have a serious discussion after you spend a few more days doing pessimistic media criticism! seriously, let's go. i'm all for it. i may act like a bit of a dick but it's to make my disagreement unambiguous and avoid misunderstandings in the end

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[–] sordid@procial.tchncs.de 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Ugh federation is fucking up my replies again.
You're the fucking moron coming up with depressing fanfiction based off vague headline recollections. Did you even see Iran got hits with basic ballistic missiles that reach hypersonic velocities towards the end of their flight path? Conventional weapons this magic air defense is supposed to work on.
Why don't you calm down with your Game of Thrones brain shit about how Ansarallah and Qassam Brigades and Hezbollah and Syria and Iran are all divided because they didn't escalate the way you think they should. Why don't you go play HOI4 or Warhammer, you illiterate churl?

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[–] sordid@procial.tchncs.de 2 points 7 months ago

This is what any microblog instance looks like when it's being forced into an unholy matrimony with Lemmy. Mastodon looks just like this. https://fedidb.org/software/FireFish is the most advanced ActivityPub featureset available. The only complements it needs are https://fedidb.org/software/Funkwhale and https://fedidb.org/software/Bookwyrm

The translation feature in particular makes it superior even for browsing Lemmy. But also none of you bother to provide alt-text image descriptions for people who have sight and sensory issues, while Mastodon & Misskey forks passively promote its use allowing the blind to interact with the web through our aggregation. The user tags here don't cause any functional issue other than increasing character count. Lemmy posts on instance 1 already create a situation where a reply from instance 2 with a reply from instance 3 won't show the third reply on instance 1. All of our software is shit, but at least it's good shit. Anyways, your nonsense about this obviously superior software aside, let's reply to your trashy analysis of current events.

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I have no idea why you're so invested in the conjectures you've based off reading reports from the Zionists that this attack was successfully fended off and they took no serious damage, because the attack didn't fit some arbitrary guideline.
War isn't about pleasing spectators online, as the Ukrainians have been taught so painfully over the past few years.
Zionists spent over a billion dollars fending off Iran's "wasteful" use of drones. The attack cost Iran something in the millions.
They essentially launched a mass of chaff to break the AA and issued a warning strike.
Let me quote an infamous one-trick pony commentator:

Nevatim was defended by the world’s most advanced integrated anti-missile defense shield which incorporated Arrow 2, David’s Sling, THAAD, and Patriot 3 with the AN/TPY-2 X-band surveillance and targeting radar. You also ignore the fact that this system was designed to exclusively defend against the Iranian medium-range ballistic missile threat.
And yet…5-7 missiles hit Nevatim. The Israelis have acknowledged 2 runways and three warehouse structures hit.
Not a knockout blow—it wasn’t intended as such.
But any BDA expert would note that the point of impact was center mass, a clear indication of precision guidance.
5-7 missiles hit the world’s most heavily defended location, defeating an integrated ABM defense that was custom built to defeat the missiles it failed to shoot down.

I guess I am supposed to trust your intuition that the Iranians are lying about getting more out of this attack than they expected because,,, why? They're biased?

[–] mlg@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

Bruh first go use a client made in the 21st century and stop spamming user tags for replies.

Did you even see Iran got hits with basic ballistic missiles that reach hypersonic velocities towards the end of their flight path?

Yes, have they damaged or degraded Israel's military capability in literally any possible way? like even in damaging a war asset?

If Iran wanted to do a non escalating strike, they should have hit the front lawn of some big C&C post, not pretending like they made a big hit by wasting an overwhelming amount of drones and cruise missiles to let their few hypersonics make it to the edge of an airfield where all the AA would be located.

This is coming from the same country that got smacked around by the PAF and a drunken Pakistani COAS which sums up their offensive air capability.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago

I never said the resistance is pathetic you illiterate moron, at least bother to read my comment.

All I said was Iran will likely accomplish nothing compared to Hamas by itself.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 7 months ago

Fuck Israel.

https://kolektiva.media/w/ba1cb5b0-521f-4aee-9334-bd5ab1dd16e1

Donate to legal funds for those who get captured by police on April 15th or get your ass to a demonstration. This needs to stop.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago

Damn a post from Firefish. Federation be working.

Ig you can't put the link directly in the URL field though? Unfortunate

[–] mlg@lemmy.world -5 points 7 months ago

What exactly was the damage even dealt?

All the reports are saying light damage to an airfield and a single citizen from shrapnel probably from all the projectile interceptions.

Iran had all the opportunity not to play into Israel's trap and they did anyway in about the worst way possible.

Now Israel gets a greenlight for its genocide and the USA comes to the rescue to finish the job and probably help stab Iran even more after they accomplished nothing.