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I feel like I'm going through a milestone in the life of every communist organizer, lol

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[-] KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 1 year ago

I wish there was a world were communist parties were merging more than they were splitting

[-] Psychotronics@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 1 year ago

Well, while we can dream, I'm not for unity for unity's sake. Unity comes from shared principles and strategy, which are built through discussion and dispute.

[-] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 year ago

There’s a fine line between having a United struggle and excusing revisionists. There’s also a fine line between criticizing revisionists and just being sectarian.

[-] ProbablyKaffe@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Communists in the settler and Imperialist countries can't seem to grasp their contradictions. They need to step back and research the material conditions to find their actual mass base and primary contradictions.

For Brazil the settler population owns most of the property and the largest vehicle for "wealth creation" is expropriating and exploiting indigenous land and labor for international markets. This process is fueling the Brazilian middle class which has so far shown itself to be very reactionary. This is not coincidentally why Bolsonaro's camp has been destroying the Amazon and murdering activist land protectors (mostly indigenous). Communists in Brazil who don't see this will cause fractures in their parties and movements.

Relevant MintPress article: https://twitter.com/MintPressNews/status/1692172891415269386?t=GbCYLCWXW3d-MxZWXg2rMQ&s=19

[-] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 year ago

Honestly it's about time for this one, and this might even be a change for good. From what I've heard and read, the issues right now are so systemic and entrenched that there could be no solution from within the party. But from what I understand (and I might be wrong), the current split doesn't intend to create a different party, only to deal with the current leadership and make the party apparatus be actually effective for once.

To me this inspires some hope, as my biggest complaint in our politics was the lack of a truly committed and effective revolutionary party. Can't wait for the dust to settle.

the bad comes before the good

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Skimming past main seeing this two posts one after another:

[-] cass@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As an actual militant of the Brazilian Communist Party's youth, the Communist Youth Union, (UJC):

The situation is: the central committee that held on from the original coup in the party in 1992, despite actually holding onto the name, were a bunch of fucking revisionists for the most part (the PCB has a tradition of revisionism/reformism dating back to 1958) As new generation came in after 2013 to the communist youth, we got actually relevant again and the people doing the ground work actually learned shit for real, so in the last party congress (XVI, 2021) the CC started to feel threathened and started arbitrary expulsions and such, this culminated in an accord to keep most of the CC unchanged, get some dissidence in and stop the arbitrary purges. The actual party resolutions reflect more this new generation's work, but the majority of the CC did not change hands. So, 2023 rolls around and the CC majority starts violating resolutions (namely participating in a Pro-Russia "anti-imperialist" platform that houses many reactionary parties such as CPGB-ML https://wap21.org/). They do this in secret and do not inform the rest of the party, rest of CC finds out, threats against the ones trying to keep the party line start coming. Finally, the former secretary general (and oldest generation communist), Ivan Pinheiro actually releases to the public that even though the CC suspended participation in that platform, our secretary of international relations went to another meeting in Seoul (and a shit party's congress). So things go public and the outright struggle against the CC starts, mass expulsions ensue and actual communists start organizing a way to fight back and calling for a party congress, more arbitrary shit ensues.

A lot of old stuff comes to light, youth national committee is effectively dissolved by the CC, we just don't recognize it and keep on working.

Here's the national committee of the communist youth statement in english: https://medium.com/@guilhermestefano_24542/political-statement-from-the-national-coordination-of-the-uni%C3%A3o-da-juventude-comunista-communist-158035d27657

Just for reference, in my state the entire communist youth and two party cells were purged. The State Committee that did this has covered for rapists and sexual harassers (and is about to bring a sexual harasser that was part of it that left back in)

The youth is like 80% minimum on board with a new party congress to solve this shit (and at this point, a new name for the party pretty much). The percentage is only going to go up because we're fucking right and are going to expose them. Has been real shit to learn some "comrades" were just shit stains all along tho

TL;DR: petit-bourgeois revisionists can't stand to lose the ideological struggle, kick out the party from the name.

Edit: oh and by the way here's the manifesto in defence of the Revolutionary Reconstruction (name of the period since the near dissipation of the party due to long term revisionism from '92-present, the CC wants to say we are already done reconstructing) https://emdefesadocomunismo.com.br/manifesto-em-defesa-da-reconstrucao-revolucionaria-do-pcb/

You can find the actual debate tribune in that website too, to see what the actual communists are thinking. We're dead set on making this congress happen with our without the electoral registration in our hands

Also FYI: the youth is way ahead of the party, because we had relative autonomy from the bastards

[-] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago

All power to you and your comrades, keep fighting the good fight

[-] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The youth is like 80% minimum on board with a new party congress to solve this shit

We could take this over to !brasil@lemmygrad.ml, but I'm very interested in your "boots on ground" perspectives of what's going on internally. For instance, are there internal polls over that figure? Or what is the current plan regarding the congress? It's a bit difficult to get a proper picture of it between the very official notes on the RR website and the hard-to-verify rumours being thrown around on xtwitter/mastodon, for me as a party outsider. Since I assume most Brazilians here are from or related to the PCB, it might be a good starting point for newbies like me.

[-] cass@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I won't disclose much about my (actual) comrades' work because duh.

But basically they kicked out 80% of the UJC National Committee, which were elected in the UJC congress (separate from party's, better ofc)

The publix positions against the congress in the yourh have only come from some youth bootlickers up top, and we know them well. A couple of people who actually do work have sided with the CC, but very few in the grand scheme of things.

In my state the support for the XVII Extraordinary Congress frm the youth is unanimous, and that's way over 100 people. Many party cells are starting to come forward now that the purges have reached the base level of militants.

To organize the congress we're electing provisional committees to actually get things working per state/region and the debate tribune has been opened to the public by some of the comrades that have been kicked out, it's all public and is curated by a provisional committee https://emdefesadocomunismo.com.br/tag/tribuna-debates/

FYI, in the XVI Congress the debate tribunes werw only open to national delegates and went unused by the revisionists. In that congress we instituted a permanent tribune and it hasn't gotten off the ground in over a year and a half. In the space of two weeks the PCB-RR one is working full steam, with multiple articles a day

We will follow regular congress structure afaik after we elect our provisional regional committees

[-] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 1 year ago

As the old saying goes, "every party has a revisionist. If you don't know who they are, it might be you."

[-] Salmarez@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm beating a dead horse here, but it seems like they really are communists!

[-] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago
[-] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Reject unity, embrace split

okay if they're revisionist reformists, they kinda deserve it

[-] Drstrange2love@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Classic tradition of leftist parties

[-] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Most unified socialist front I’ve ever seen.

[-] tribunodelaplebe@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Good, comrade. Greetings from the new Communist Party of Argentina, we've also been expelled from our parent organization and are working towards the reconstruction of the party along revolutionary lines. Tell me, what was the nature of the split? I haven't had the time to read the articles on Em Defensa do Comunismo

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