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[–] MamboGator@lemmy.world 71 points 6 months ago (4 children)

DBZ has the best villains-turned-allies. I don't think any of them could be considered morally "right" though, so I guess that means Piccolo, Vegeta, Yamcha and Tien all have dumptruck asses in canon.

[–] Kalothar@lemmy.ca 50 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Vegeta is like a little space hitler jr, has committed multiple planet wide genocides and his father King Vegeta wouldn’t have had it any other way.

[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

lit is shown that Frieza demands this, enslaved the saiyans and have pushed them to do his bidding. From what I remember, we pretty much get 0 saipan history pre-frieza minus GT and that's not canon.

All this to say "he was just following orders" holds up until maybe the cell saga. On namek I can give the man a lot of trauma and brainwashing and child soldier mulligans. Saving cell and letting millions suffer AFTER he's 'rehabilitated' and then does it again for Babidi, THAT makes him a space Hitler Jr

[–] Enkrod@feddit.de 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

But he's got a great mustache

[–] MamboGator@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's why GT will always be canon to me instead of Super.

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[–] orphiebaby@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

moustaaaache

[–] exocrinous@startrek.website 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Have you considered The Owl House's reformed villains? It has 8 of them.

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago

a lot of DBZ chars have low key dumptrucks mainly because they have otherworldly glutes

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 37 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I like when the villain becomes the hero out of exhaustion. The good guy and bad guy just get tired of not getting along, but they spent so much time together that they just get along.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)
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[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Venom is still the Villan in most cannons, but I think the reason he's the hero in his movies is 1. It's his movies, of course he has to be the hero, and 2. He hasn't meet deadpool in his movies.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Iirc Deadpool was actually Venom's first human host.

Deadpool having 3 personalities was too much for Venom which is why he was so fucked up when he latched onto Spiderman. He was literally trying to put his head back together and that's why Peter was able to reject him.

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That is true, but in the movie, venom skips deadpool and Peter so he's a lot less evil and not broken.

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[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 months ago

i didn't understand shit (i'm also drunk maybe that's why)

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