Look at all those anti-semites. /s
Send in the NYPD!
You want to see a grown person in full riot armor cry? Put a US police officer anywhere in the middle east.
Don’t threaten me with a good time
They are all undercover Hamas members trying to disrupt Israel's political system /s
infiltrated by outside agitators no less...
🙄
All paid by George Soros even
I wish them luck. They have an uphill climb against someone cementing dictatorial powers but I hope they can achieve those goals.
Unfortunately this can be said for a few nations now at this point
All the research I'm doing right now points to them just wanting their hostages back. Can anyone post evidence of citizens protesting the war on the grounds of genocide?
I just don't see the humanity here... I want to see it, but I can't find any evidence at all that they are against the actual atrocities being committed. If there is a huge vocal outcry for this, then their media (and/or ours) is doing overtime to hide it.
It's interesting that Lemmy has pretty okay representation globally, not great but OK.
Are there any lemmings in Israel that can tell us what's going on?
I think it's important not to project into these protesters what we would like them to be protesting about. We need to hear their words, from them.
I've seen a couple and they were mostly Zionists defending the genocide. So far, they haven't reflected well on their state, but if there's anyone who actually doesn't like the atrocities committed by Israel in Israel, I'd be curious to see if they exist here. The only one I've seen in articles is that one who sent to jail instead of participate in the IDF.
Israellis are basically the only people on the planet that can stop this genocide. I said that back in November, it's still true now.
Netanyahu has been prime minister for 16 years, just won reelection in 2022, and has been a murderous, zionist bastard the entire time.
Not to mention, he lost power before 2022 because of court battles from 2015 to 2021 after which the courts ruled he could not be held accountable for crimes of corruption, and his reinstatement also meant that the compromise-government that formed on the condition of 2 years of conservative rulership followed by 2 years of progressive/moderate rulership was cut short and it was just back to back Netanyahu-lite to Netanyahu-lager.
Murphy's law is enforced in Israel.
But now he's a genocidal, zionist bastard
And this shows that those opposed to Israel's actions in Gaza are not antisemitic (ignoring the eventual neonazi assholes), they are opposed to a government that is committing genocide. Especially a government that governs a people THAT SHOULD KNOE BETTER.
I have no problems at all with Jews and I'm sure that, given people who really want peace, a good treaty can be made where both the Palestinians and the Israelites can peacefully coexist, that would be awesome.
However, right now saying even something like that is somehow antisemitic. If anything, I find that sort of behavior antisemitic, because it is so transparent that it pushes more people to the far right and into the hands of neo Nazis.
Stop the genocide, stop the war, withdraw ALL Israeli forces immediately and unconditionally. Then put in a peace keeping force comprised of multiple countries in that same area, and make sure they all work towards peace.
I was about to say that I hoped we could make protests against Israel’s government without being called antisemitic here in France too…
Good shit guys, and good luck, what's the point of democracy if they don't fucking listen. We should all be doing this, all of the time
While it’s fair that they’re protesting for their hostages to be returned, this headline puts them in a completely different light. I don’t believe anyone is actually protesting for a ceasefire.
This is correct. I can't find anything at all claiming this protest has anything to do with stopping the Palestinian genocide for the sake of humanity.
They just want their hostages back, according to what I've been able to find. Can anyone show significant support for the contrary?
‘"We hope the world hears us and knows that the people of Israel are not the government of Israel," said one protester.‘
I really wanted to believe that, but they have the same PRV type of voting system as Ireland so that’s hard to believe. It’s not like UK/US where the votes are counted in a more primitive way.
I'll admit to not being the most knowledgeable person on internal Israeli politics, but my understanding is hes been holding onto power for a while through a combination of coalitions and judge nonsense. Even then, if he represented the views of 51% of Israeli's that would still be a lot of people who's views don't align with his.
The problem is that there is a lot of Israelis who are now against Netanyahu, but who are still in support of the genocide in Gaza, or who are always in support of the Settler terrorism and slow genocide in the Westbank.
No Israeli government has reduced or at least stopped settlements since Rabin was murdered. The Center and Center Left of Israeli politics are equally in favor of an Apartheid occupation and running Israel as a supremacist ethnostate.
There is some people that genuinely reject all of this fascist nonsense and demand actual peace and actual justice in Israel. But unfortunately they are very much a minority. And when they speak up they often get threatened, harassed and attacked.
No Israeli government has reduced or at least stopped settlements since Rabin was murdered.
Quoth the Haaretz: "Jigal Amir won".
The possible silver lining is that Netanyahu also demonstrated that the right-wing's idea of how to ensure security -- namely, by antagonising Palestinians into submission -- doesn't work. But that kind of insight will take a while to actually sink in.
And another thing that needs to happen is Israelis not shying away from looking at what's being done to Palestinians. The Israeli press is self-censoring, knowing that noone wants to watch or read about the crimes the IDF is committing. It's wilful ignorance: People want to support the IDF because they at least at some level still believe in the antagonising Palestinians into submission approach, yet they can't bear to acknowledge what that entails. Which is kinda actually a real silver lining: Imagine if the Israeli press glorified, instead of ignored, all those mass graves and whatnot, what that would say about their audience. In the end it's still only the Kahanites who actually get a hard-on when seeing Arab corpses.
...the same, side note, btw also happened in the Third Reich: First Nazis were very overt, the pogroms were open, public, they were dragging people through streets and whatnot. They very quickly changed approach, made sure that people were able to ignore what was being done, were able to come up with lies such as "they're only expelling the Jews" and actually believe in them. Precisely because not every German back then got a hard-on when seeing a Jewish corpse either.
So, please, Israeli people, get rid of those chucklefucks in government before they put you in camps for protesting.
In January there was a poll done in Israel: Only 15% of Israelis want Netanyahu to keep job after Gaza war, poll finds.
I don’t know how the poling is now though. However with how the world currently sees Israel, I doubt it would be in a favor for the prime minister (as in not in favor for him).
Some of those dissatisfied with him will want an even more extreme right-winger. So you conclude too much from that figure alone, except that he's very unpopular.
It's also a parliamentary system, and there hasn't been a stable coalition in forever. Netanyahu, despite his lack of public popularity, has the backroom connections to stay on top of 'the game' in a divided parliament, especially with two of the left-wing parties only narrowly missing the threshold in the last election.
fuck yes that's what im talking about
I am curious to witness the mental gymnatics necessary to call these Israelis antisemitic...what absolute nonsense will need to be implemented this round?
Make him resign so they can reelect him again.
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