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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 79 points 5 months ago (4 children)

My wife ran my one of a kind, handmade, tamahagane steel knife through the dishwasher. She load and unloads the dishwasher now, but she hasn't run it since.

[–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago

My condolences

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

surely she's attacking the wrong problem? the issue wasn't that she ran the dishwasher in the first place, it was that she loaded the wrong item into the dishwasher.

if this story is true, then she should avoid loading the dishwasher. running it or not is immaterial.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The point is that I check before running it. Not loading anything into it at all is equivalent to punishing me indefinitely for her mistake.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My wife loading the dishwasher punishes me because I have rearrange things, so it's like I'm doing double work. There's a system!

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I swear they do it on purpose.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

And that's why I'll be rocking my mustache.

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Does this actually somehow destroy the knife? Its wooden handle, or the blade itself? Surely this elvish steel can withstand boiling water 🤔

[–] Chrobin@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure the blade is untreated, you shouldn't even wash it with soap.

Washing it with soap won't hurt it. You just need to properly dry and oil it after. The dishwasher can ruin a wood handle, though.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 1 points 5 months ago

I've heard dishwashers dull blades. I don't understand the science (assuming there is some) behind it.

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not even Lovecraft could conjure up such cosmic evil from the abyss.

[–] Repelle@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I cook mostly in cast iron and have never attempted this, but I imagine a decently seasoned pan would survive pretty unscathed, wouldn’t it? I have the sudden urge to try.

[–] BubbleMonkey@slrpnk.net 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I’ve heard that modern dish soaps don’t strip the seasoning from cast iron, but soaps with lye, or acids (including acidic foods) will. And you are apparently supposed to indeed yes wash the pans with soap when you use them. But if your dishwasher detergent is acidic or has any sort of booster for hard water you might want to just skip the test unless you need to reseason anyway

I don’t cook with cast iron, so do not take that as gospel truth. I use stainless which I season sort of similarly, and honestly haven’t noticed a difference.

[–] Repelle@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You’re right, acid is the enemy of seasoning, not soap. I do use soap on my cast iron sometimes, but mostly not because my normal method is to rinse and wipe the pan then put back on heat to dry and use the remaining oil to help keep the seasoning up and the soap would strip that thin layer.

I wouldn’t have expected dishwashing detergent to be acidic which is why I expected it to not be so bad. Also I don’t mind fixing a seasoning every now and then so I’m still pretty tempted.

[–] BubbleMonkey@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago

For the acidic dishwasher stuff, typically no, but some of the stuff formulated for hard water is mildly acidic. I only know that because I have hard water, and tried it before just getting citric acid powder, which will also strip kiln-cured glass paint, and I lost a nice batch of brewery pint glasses learning that.

But I’m sure it’ll be fine, and if not it’s like a whole new pan! :p

[–] Jazsta@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's totally fine if you have a good seasoning on there. The soap thing is largely a myth. I wash mine with soap every time I use it and it's still slick as ever

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah, but it's the thought that counts.
"Watch me torment this mis-informed mfer..."

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Haha. This made me LOL for real.