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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz to c/steamdeck@sopuli.xyz

This is just talking about games approved through Valve's verification process. There are a lot of games that work that are "unverified", not to mention the entire history of gaming available through emulation.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/21835717

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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 86 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It plays way more than that, I play all sorts of "unsupported" games all the time - mostly they run fine or even great (never mind all the emulators lol)

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 14 points 5 months ago

The ProtonDB Decky plugin is so much more useful than the Steam Verified one.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I have not even begun to fuck with games outside of Steam yet. My backlog of stuff I want to play is insane. I probably could not play through even just the fully supported games before I died, never mind all the other stuff.

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 5 months ago

What if you include the switch games it can play? Hehehe

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 50 points 5 months ago

Does 29% include the 99% of switch games the deck can play?

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 23 points 5 months ago
[-] Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago

Given that compatibility improvements can essentially only be expected from Ryujinx now though, does Ryujinx run as well as Yuzu on the Deck? Ideally I'd like to switch to it entirely unless a viable Yuzu successor emerges, but I've heard that it's not as resource efficient in comparison.

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

In my opinion it's not "as good" as yuzu, for now. That said it still runs about anything I throw at it, but yuzu did it better with higher frame rates.

[-] TxzK@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago

There's suyu continuing yuzus work.

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[-] gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago

Yuzu is better overall, but Ryujinx works weirdly better for certain games. Like, Mario Wonder runs about 40% better for me on Ryujinx for some reason.

[-] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 17 points 5 months ago

It has some value as a comparison, some people might be worried about buying a deck because they've heard that some games don't work on it because of linux. But no one would think the Switch is lacking in games.

[-] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[-] Zoot@reddthat.com 4 points 5 months ago

You say that, but I can keep my deck in docked/gaming mode, and my son who's only 7 has been playing away it like its a switch.

I think people just like to make excuses for their spending habits, which isn't wrong at all. It just becomes disheartening when you say such blatantly wrong things.

[-] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[-] Zoot@reddthat.com 3 points 5 months ago

Generally speaking you're either playing docked, or sitting down. Not typically both, but I know what you mean. Even then though, any of the games he plays just automatically readjust the resolution to handheld mode and works just fine. Then when you plug it back in, it knows to stop using the steam as monitor 1 and switches the output to the TV.

Not sure how you're doing it, but its worked fine for me.

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[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 5 points 5 months ago

Given that most game developer don't even target the Steam Deck, it's quite impressive. The Switch and Deck have a lot of junk games too. And both are handhelds, capable of docking to the tv/monitor. While both systems are vastly different, they have lot of in common and people might buy only one of the systems. Therefore comparisons fair or not, are still comparisons people make and decide.

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[-] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 5 months ago

I wanted to buy a switch for the longest time, but after Nintendo being cunts, I will buy the deck and simply emulate any and all Nintendo games. They don't deserve any less

[-] yeehaw_cosmonaut@reddthat.com 31 points 5 months ago

My wife adamantly refused to get a Steam Deck for herself, saying that she would never give up her Switch.

Cut to one year out from buying one for her, and the Switch has been in a bin almost the entire time.

[-] gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 5 months ago

The steam deck library includes the entire switch library via emulation, so Yeah Obviously. (Ik they're not counting emulation, but my point is that the steam deck is a PC, which makes it much more versatile)

[-] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago

They just talk about Steam games that were verified by Valve's process. So yeah, as you said, it's much larger for people who are willing to do a tiny bit of tinkering 👍

[-] Furty@mstdn.games 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

@Fubarberry My one wish is they (Valve, Nintendo, etc.) could make discovery easier and more useful. It takes a lot of effort finding new games to play that aren't the usual major releases and obvious indie titles.

Edit: The two resources I use are https://bestofsteam.com/ and https://steam250.com/

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Valve actually does a lot to make discovery easier, compared to Nintendo:

You really can't say Valve wouldn't do a lot to help with discovery.

[-] Furty@mstdn.games 3 points 5 months ago

@thingsiplay I've only been actively using Steam for about a year and wasn't aware of everything you mentioned. I appreciate the detailed reply. That's all very helpful.

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 3 points 5 months ago

Guess Valve needs a discovery for the discovery tools.^^ Glad it helped.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 months ago

I'll check those out. I've been doing the "steam discovery queue" for awhile now though, and it feels like if you do it enough you won't ever miss anything of interest. I think it can work pretty well for game discovery, you just need to invest some time in it every day to get through all the more "common" recommendations.

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[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 5 months ago

Don't forget about emulation. You can basically emulate anything you like, including Switch games. Ryujinx supports over 3K Switch titles.

[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Only 29%? The fuck does Nintendo even have on there?

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 15 points 5 months ago

A tremendous amount of bloatware and ports of iOS games.

[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

That's not fair. The switch is a great console for indie games.

Obviously, so is the Steam Deck, but that doesn't discount the Switch for having a solid library of games outside of the usual Nintendo shite.

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[-] cron@feddit.de 9 points 5 months ago

According to Wikipedia, there are less than 5000 games for nintendo switch, while the Steam Deck is far beyond 10k games.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 8 points 5 months ago

According to this website, there are about 11k switch games. There are some duplicates on that list though, games which have multiple "editions" will have an entry under each version. For example, Xenoblade Chronicles DE is listed 4 times to cover different regional collectors editions.

[-] cron@feddit.de 3 points 5 months ago

Thanks you for the clarification!

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

I just hope this kicks off a revolution of not needing stupid GPUs requirements.

[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I like the Deck, but lately been using my Switch again because I like the battery life and the smaller form factor sometimes. I hope Valve releases a Deck that is a little easier to slip into a bag and that can do a bit better than 1.5-2.5 hours of battery life.

I’ll still use my Deck, but in some cases where the same game I want is available on Switch and I am traveling, I will choose the Switch for its form factor.

[-] 3aqn5k6ryk@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

For me, I have come to appreciate switch lite form factor to be honest. I like the deck too but its too bulky for me personally. I fucking love vita and 3ds lite but small size has it cons such as underpowered cpu, battery etc but damn it i like it fit enough on most pocket and easily slid into bag.

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[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 6 points 5 months ago

This is just talking about games approved through Valve's verification process.

I was gonna say that number sounded VERY low.

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That difference seems far lower than I would have guessed.

Oh. The "verified" status accounts for the difference. That's fair.

My initial mental math was including unverified Indie games I already bought for my PC, most of which happen to work perfectly.

I expect that difference to go up fast over the next few years as more indie devs discover that they don't actually need to change many of their old games to get verified.

[-] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah, even the "playable" tag i have to check what they mean by that. Psychonauts 1 and 2 are "playable" but both need you to manually pull up the keyboard and show xbox controls... Like okay? That's all? They play perfectly.

I also downloaded an indie game "tonight we riot" and its not even tested. Want to geuss how well it plays? Spoiler, perfectly fine.

I'm genuinely greatful for steam personally pushing for more games to work well in linux even if the game needs a compatibility layer like Wine or proton.

[-] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
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[-] jqubed@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I really hope to get one of these at some point

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[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago

even more if you account for ahem nes archival sites

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