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Valorant on PS5 won’t support gyro aiming, to ensure Xbox players aren’t at a disadvantage (www.videogameschronicle.com)
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[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 31 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It already doesn't have PC crossplay, why not just disable console crossplay, or use the same input based matchmaking other games use, with gyro as an added input? Disabling a superior input is incredibly stupid and will lower the skill ceiling of the game, which is already going to be lower than on PC.

[–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I’ve never messed with gyro aiming, is it really superior? I might have to give it a try in something if that’s the case.

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

IMO it is definitely very superior. If you practice enough you can get pretty close to the precision and speed of a mouse for small movements.

[–] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What's a good gyro aim game? I've only used it in the new Zelda games (which admittedly was really nice to aim with)

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

I mostly play on a Steam Deck, which lets you use it on most games by emulating a mouse. I played through GTA5 and some other shooters with it. On switch, the others I know of are Splatoon 2 and Overwatch 2 (I think)

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

Splatoon

[–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Interesting I wouldn’t have thought and now I will definitely check it out. Thanks for the answer.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

It's so good you don't even notice you're using it. But when it's not available it hits hard.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It's superior if you have the option to adjust the sensitivity. In most games that don't have a sensitivity setting, it's way too sensitive, so unless you can hold your hands perfectly still your aim is gonna be fucked.

And since most games don't have any sensitivity settings for the gyro, I rarely use it.

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

That does make sense. I've mainly used gyro on PC, where Steam Input lets you change the sensitivity per game.

[–] DualPad@lemmy.one 2 points 5 months ago

If strong aim assist is present then that can outperform gyro, but that also can outperform a lot of mouse users to the point that even PC lobbies have mouse users abandoning mouse for aim assist supported inputs. So it depends on the level of aim assist. But, with aim assist removed from the equation gyro is better than joysticks and is surprisingly usable against mouse players despite the absence of auto aiming.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

its good on controller but I mainly game on steam deck and I hate it on steam deck. too heavy and hard to get the sweet spot of avoiding accidental input and not having too high or too low sensitivity. I need a steam controller 2.

but yeah you can do stuff like fast/coarse move with stick and slow/precision with gyro and do compound movement of both at the same time, for example tilting against the stick if you overshoot or with the stick if the aim comes short, or adding up or down hairline adjustment on gyro while doing just right or left on the stick. weird at first but I can do it better than mouse aim on controllers with good implementaion.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Competitive FPS games on consoles. Like, what more can be said? Everything after that will be questionable. Whatever they do will be wrong and right, simultaneously.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I can't believe Xbox doesn't have gyros at this point. Even Nintendo has gyros in their controllers. I haven't had an Xbox since the 360, so this is actually a surprise to me.

[–] adavis@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Even Nintendo has gyros in their controllers

Nintendo have had gyros in their controllers since 2006 with the release of the Wii. Basically right there with Sony (Nov 11th vs Nov 19th 2006)

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Nintendo has had gyros since the NES. I swear it made a difference when we moved tge controller around!

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

With Gyroscope aiming you use the stick for large, broad movements, but for small adjustments you move the controller itself. It's new as of about 2016ish.

The explanation and video here is good.

https://www.digitec.ch/en/page/aiming-with-sticks-so-yesterday-gyro-aiming-is-the-future-24968

[–] rsh@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Are Xbox players paste-eaters or something?

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Guess they need to disable mice and trackballs now

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You already can't use those on these systems though

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I thought mice and trackballs worked on PlayStation and Xbox?

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago

I believe they work on the main console interface, but the majority of games don't implement support, especially FPS games due to the advantage they offer.

[–] Tash@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Gyro support on XInput has been on PC gamers wishlist for awhile.

XInput is a solid standard (especially if you look at the state of gaming in the pre 2000's) but it is in need of an update....

[–] ryo 5 points 5 months ago

This is so weird, pretty sure CoD has had support for that for years now and it’s full cross play no matter what input you use.