That’s nice grandpa let’s get you back to bed
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Downvoted because this isn’t news, it’s culture war bait.
Who gives a fuck what Alice Cooper thinks?
I don't care what he thinks, but now that he put it out there, I can't disassociate him from his shit opinion.
That's actually a good point. Thank you. We don't need this rage bait shit.
I feel like trans people and their allies should know who their enemies are and what they're saying and doing, if only for their own safety.
It is infuriating, and its not the reasoned and insightful conversations about our personally held systems of normative values and the experience and empirical evidence that informs them that I wish we were having instead of these conversations, but I just think it's irresponsible to turn a blind eye to it because ignoring it won't make it go away and could let it fester and spread.
I can't imagine many trans people looking up to a washed up 80s rocker has been, but I guess aside from that I see your point.
I see your point, but Alice Cooper is a washed up old hack. He’s not swinging any votes to DeSantis or anything like that.
For the sake of your mental health it’s important to focus on what matters and ignore that which doesn’t. In my opinion Alice Cooper does not matter and getting outraged by his opinion only distracts you from what’s really important.
Thank you. Also downvoted this shit.
The guy who dresses up and wears makeup..
Was going to comment... for the dude that looks like a crazy cat lady in her 90s that had way too much to drink last night and woke up in a ditch he's got some weird opinion on this.
This stance seems so off-brand for Dee and Alice. But they are pretty up there in age. I might not want to know my dad's inner thoughts on this, either, I suppose. Still, for glam rockers raging against oppressive authority, it seems like they would have a more progressive take on this.
Your last sentiment is one I’d agree with. You’d think that any rocker from back in the day that was all about being anti authority would tell people to go out there and do what the fuck they want. Hearing an opinion like this feels off brand lol
still, for glam rockers raging against oppressive authority
Did he say he was for the government stopping trans people from making their own choices?
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so many bigots outing themselves.
75 y-o shouts at sky.
I haven't heard Alice Cooper since I stopped listening to the Wayne's World soundtrack in the 90s. I guess I can continue to not hear him with impunity.
Ok, I'm at the point where I really have to say 'so what?' about shit that aging, boomer rock stars of the cocaine fueled past say. Like really who gives a fuck what Alice Cooper thinks? He's always been a Gene Simmons level asshole main character personality type. He has only ever gotten attention by pissing someone off. This is easy. Let these people drift off into irrelevance. Stop allowing them to matter.
The problem is that no matter how much those of us who know he's full of shit ignore him, he still has a massive platform and enough people who agree and will lap this shit up, and then do anything from bullying their trans co workers to going on a shooting spree, not to mention legislation that gets supported by these types and the harm it does (E: also, we don't know that he doesn't agree with what he's saying, but even if he claims not to, he's still throwing trans people under the bus which is an act of transphobia).
I agree that he's ragebaiting for attention but that doesn't change the impact of his words.
I still don't understand why the trans thing has suddenly become a "problem." I've known trans people for 30 years. And I knew they existed before that. How the hell did it suddenly go from "Man wear skirt ha ha ha funny" at worst (not that that was good, just that it wasn't what we have now) to "Fad! Groomers! They should die!"
We seem to be lurching as a society to a direction I don't think I can live in.
I still don’t understand why the trans thing has suddenly become a “problem.”
Because noone cares about homosexuality anymore(it has been mostly normalized), so they need a new target to scream about.
It's this. Attacking gay people is no longer acceptable to enough people that conservatives can get away with it as a culture war tact. They've moved onto trans people which is more successful because there's a lot fewer trans people. We're seeing a LOT of bullshit getting flipped around and making people mad about things they didn't use to care about. The drag-hate is a good example. Tons of examples from history where drag is supported and now it's a major battleground? Bullshit. Just another way to find a convenient target for the right to hate.
I would agree with this logic if it wasn't for:
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As I said, I've noticed that they didn't care about this until recently. So this isn't a "What marginalized group are we still allowed to be shitty too", this is "Hey, let's pick a group we never cared that much about and treat them the same way reasonable people treat pedophiles". (This I'm spelling out in different words because it was supposed to be implied by my original question but nobody has addressed it)
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They're still, STILL, shitting on gays. The groomer crap? That was originally aimed at justifying an anti-LGBT bill (all LGBT, to the point it was described as "Don't say Gay" by many) by a DeSantis spokeswoman, trans people were, at that point, just another target, not a primary target.
I appreciate the optimism here about how oh this is just because they can't be crappy to lots of other groups, but they're still being crappy to the other groups. Transpeople have not replaced gay and poor black people in the Conservative lexicon of "others" that should be blamed for society's ills, they've joined them.
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Fascists need enemies and the enemy needs to be both small in number and visibly identifiable.
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Oh shit, an old, irrelevant douchebag said it, so I guess it must be true. Someone put this man in a home, please.
I guess a no-substance shock rocker dude who wears makeup and calls himself Alice would have a take on this subject. Really shitty take though.
Rich, white, out-of-touch boomer. You used to be relevant, now you're just the status quo...
Something so many of these folks need to learn is that shutting up is free.
Incredibly sad to see Alice Cooper using rote, boring anti-trans talking points, especially the old canard of 'any man can walk into a woman's restroom by saying he feels like a woman today,' which is something I've seen online more times than I can count and even heard in person from a few folks almost word-for-word. Don't be a parrot, Vincent.
I mean it’s Alice Cooper, I’m not sure we should be listening to them.
I don't think it is a fad though.
Old man yells at cloud
Fuck this fucking octogenarian.
Looks like somebody chewed on a bat that was past its sell-by date
Talentless hack who was last relevant forty years ago (for some reason) manages to get into the news. Now back to your rocking chair, grandpa.
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Anyone get Ja Rule's take?
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