this post was submitted on 15 Jun 2024
797 points (98.9% liked)

Technology

59190 readers
3487 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Mozilla has reinstated certain add-ons for Firefox that earlier this week had been banned in Russia by the Kremlin.

The browser extensions, which are hosted on the Mozilla store, were made unavailable in the Land of Putin on or around June 8 after a request by the Russian government and its internet censorship agency, Roskomnadzor.

Among those extensions were three pieces of code that were explicitly designed to circumvent state censorship – including a VPN and Censor Tracker, a multi-purpose add-on that allowed users to see what websites shared user data, and a tool to access Tor websites.

The day the ban went into effect, Roskomsvoboda – the developer of Censor Tracker – took to the official Mozilla forums and asked why his extension was suddenly banned in Russia with no warning.

"We recently noticed that our add-on is now unavailable in Russia, despite being developed specifically to circumvent censorship in Russia," dev zombbo complained. "We did not violate Mozilla's rules in any way, so this decision seems strange and unfair, to be honest."

Another developer for a banned add-on chimed in that they weren't informed either.

The internet org's statement at the time mentioned the ban was merely temporary. It turns out wasn't mere PR fluff, as Mozilla tells The Register that the ban has now been lifted.

"In alignment with our commitment to an open and accessible internet, Mozilla will reinstate previously restricted listings in Russia," the group declared. "Our initial decision to temporarily restrict these listings was made while we considered the regulatory environment in Russia and the potential risk to our community and staff.

"We remain committed to supporting our users in Russia and worldwide and will continue to advocate for an open and accessible internet for all."

Lifting the ban wasn't completely necessary for users to regain access to the add-ons – two of them were completely open source, and one of the VPN extensions could be downloaded from the developer's website.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] 1984@lemmy.today 52 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 3 points 4 months ago

Special plug~~in~~ operation.

[–] misterwu@lemmy.world 50 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I love how the developer's name is "roskomSVOBODA" (svoboda means something like freedom) in contrast to the name of the censorship agency "roskomNADZOR" (supervision).

Forgive me if i got it wrong. My russian is terrible

[–] nolight@lemm.ee 19 points 4 months ago

You are absolutely correct, you got both of them right!

[–] uis@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

Yep. Correct. Also RosComSvoboda is Pirate Party without saying Pirate Party.

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 48 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Heh, I wonder how the ml tankies are spinning this one and what browser they're going to use instead of Nazifox or whatever stupid name they're using for it now.

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If not for an occasional comment like yours - I would never remember I've defederated them. Thanks!

[–] kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Which instance are you talking of? Hexbear, by any chance?

[–] Weslee@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

I believe they are referring to Lemmy.ml

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

@Weslee@lemmy.world has already answered, but in general - you can see [de]federated instances at an <instance url>/instances. In my case that would be lemmy.cafe/instances

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 4 months ago

To avoid confusion, this person is saying their instance is lemmy.cafe, not answering the question. Lemmy.ml is the referred to instance.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

You are confusing ml with twitter.

[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

I recently blocked that instance, so who knows?

[–] Xirup@yiffit.net 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] vxx@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Tankies are pro authoritarian. I believe their name comes from celebrating China sending tanks to tianmen square.

They pretend to be lefties though.

That's why they would shit on Firefox, because they're Pro Putin.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Minor correction, although it changes nothing about your point:

tankie actually refers to people who defended the crushing of Hungarian and Czechoslovakian revolts by Soviet military personnel, who went as far as sending tanks in to quell civil unrest.

The term was originally coined in the UK and was an insult to British Communist Party followers who would slavishly follow the Kremlin line.

Of course, the term has now evolved to mean someone from the west who seems to dislike the west and praises Russia and China, despite them also being Capitalist countries now, and generally being more into imperialism.

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 2 points 4 months ago

Before any tankies claim the word is a blanket slur against communists: "tankie" was coined by British communists that were disgusted by the attitudes of some of their so-called "fellows".

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I believe their name comes from celebrating China sending tanks to tianmen square.

AFAIK that name was created before tianmen.

because they're Pro Putin.

Wouldn't that make them just autocracy fans, not tankies?

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

AFAIK that name was created before tianmen.

Correct. It actually originates from westerners who defended the Soviet Union sending tanks into Hungary and Czechoslovakia when citizens were protesting.

Wouldn't that make them just autocracy fans, not tankies?

They're kinda the same thing. A tankie is a fan of autocracy, but only when Russia or China does it. It's not a worldview that makes sense.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I mean Putin has his mafia of oligarchs, while China looks like capitalism with beastly grin. And while CCP fans technically can be called tankies, Putin fans cannot. Putin fans are right-wingers.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You're throwing logic into a shit storm

[–] uis@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Why? Russia is not Soviet Union, Putin is not communist, and Unuted Russia members are oligarchs.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I completely agree. I don't understand why there are some self-described ML types that support modern Russia. It really makes no sense, as Russia's economics and government has nothing to do with communism/socialism, or Marx, anymore.

I wonder how many Russian bots and agents have infiltrated those communities to spread that propaganda. FWIW, I am a member of a Socialist org, and there is nothing but hate for the Russian government amongst my comrades.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah, the propaganda machine is running full steam, and the worst thing is you never really know if something is said in good faith or by the bot account.

I heard that they employ a lot of different strategies, among the other goals it is to plant doubt, so even if something sounds half-reasonable it may still be part of the propaganda :(

What a better place the world could probably be if all this effort went into something good

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

They can absolutely be called tankies, the word has evolved, just like how fascists aren't limited to Mussolini's National Fascist Party, but instead applies to any extremely authoritarian right winger.

To a tankie, it doesn't matter whether Russia or China are left or right wing anymore, all they care about now is being anti-western. The US, UK, etc could turn socialist tomorrow and tankies would still hate them and defend Russia and China.

Anything the west does is bad and imperialistic, and when you bring up the dodgy shit that Russia and China do, all you'll get back is whataboutism.

[–] Titou@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Guess it's time to use it

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 39 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why the fuck should any government decide what software you can run? Especially free software. How threatened or insecure must they be? What a true show of cowardice.

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

you can expect some USA whataboutism regarding tiktok or wardialing or wardriving etc.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Right. And I don’t want any Chinese spyware, or NSA spyware, or Israeli spyware on any of my shit either. But here we are I guess.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 4 months ago

well just upped my firefox donation :)

for those curious you can always make an additional one time donation in addition to your monthly one

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 months ago

Anything to make the Kremlin rage to make more mistakes.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

I guess this means Fox News and OAN are about to start demonizing Firefox.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] Starb3an@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Fuck Russian politics and policies* I like to believe that most Russians just want to live and drink vodka

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago

I'm more of a medovukha kind of guy, but yes, indeed, we do. Thank you for saying this

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I'm American and I just want to live and drink vodka.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

The old saying goes that Russian history can be summarized as "And then it got worse." The Russians are victims of their own history, and they are the first group that Putin terrorized (quite literally with the known false flag operation).

They have such a rich culture and truly bright minds. There could be wonderful scientific collaboration and cultural exchange. I'd love to see a technological rivalry reminiscent of the cold war (without all the proxy fights and nuclear threats and animosity).

I hope that it'll be in my lifetime where we're able to sit down and drink beer and vodka together and be on friendly terms as countries.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

I want not to drink, but use 70% vodka as safe solvent. And live.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I can't imagine what it's like to not to be able to live honestly without getting disappeared.

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago

Feels lonely, most of all. I don't fear the cops or ex-wagners I walk past every time I go to the store. It's the radio silence in once popular channels whose owners were "disappeared", and friends either in exile or too scared to even go out, that makes me feel devastated.

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

Depending on how the US elections go in November, Americans may soon find out.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Like the boeing whistleblower or Epstein "suicide" ?

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That's not disappearing. That's blatant killing.

Disappearing is sudden government abduction with no paper trail. You criticize the government and then all a sudden, your colleagues and friends don't know what happened to you and can't contact you.

It's an important difference. Disappearing is more ominous and has a greater chilling effect. The government isn't putting you in a comfortable hotel, and they aren't killing you silently. They're torturing you for punishment and for information, and threatening your family. It's far more sinister.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 months ago

Excellent. Now do Dissenter.

[–] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Way to grow some balls Mozilla!

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Low hanging fruit. Pony sites were saying "rkn, fuck you" for a long time

load more comments
view more: next ›