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[-] brad@toad.work 2 points 1 year ago

"Youtube considering incentivizing piracy"

[-] confusedwiseman@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

It seems like we've all lost the plot. We'd probably be willing to view ads if the experience wasn't literally jarring. Try browsing for a day on a plain-no-extension browser. If you use other web enhancement tools kill those too. Straight-up internet is cancer, especially on mobile.

It's impossible to read a 250-word article without being interrupted 5-7 times. Two of those interruptions are likely a full page overlay with give me your email, and are you sure you don't want to subscribe, just give me your credit card number.

Then there are auto-play videos on the side, some with audio on by default. I mean I came here to read something, so of course we have things flashing and moving and making noise, it's the most conducive environment for thought, right?

Ad blockers and script blocking are essentially a hazmat suit that allows us to withstand a hostile environment. Remember when we said myspace pages with audio and [marching-ants] borders was a bad UX? At least we didn't have overlays back then.

Go back to basics and consider what makes a good vs bad internet experience. The reality sounds like someone with a minor case of severe brain damage. I think we've just become unashamed of greed as a society. It's clearly all just about money.

Those annoying customers/users generate content and we have to put up with them so we can monetize it. *Sadly, It's unclear if I'm talking about youtube, reddit, or nearly any other site.

Le sigh.

[-] StrayCatFrump@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We’d probably be willing to view ads if the experience wasn’t literally jarring.

Not me, sorry. Fuck ads. I've been ad-free for like a decade, and I'm not interested in regressing.

[-] confusedwiseman@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

Even if there was a balance and the ads were non-intrusive? I mean, servers and bandwidth cost money. I'm in the same boat as you where I have run ad blockers, adblocker blockers, no script, privacy enhancers, and anti-fingerprinting since forever ago.

I'd rather view a few reasonable ads than have a site try to mine and sell my data. If there was a balance, this is where I'd say it was reasonable. Since not reality, I'm with you, nuke them all, and just take the content.

[-] longshaden@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

The definition of "reasonable ads" and "just a few ads" keeps sliding. I'm old enough to remember the early internet, and that this lie has been told many times.

Just a few acceptable ads always becomes many unacceptable ads, because money.

[-] confusedwiseman@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Just like cable tv!

[-] Denaton@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

So.. using a ad blocker that we compile ourselves?

[-] jamesravey@lemmy.nopro.be 1 points 1 year ago

Wow the enshittification is at full throttle across silicon valley! Guess those investors gotta get those returns now that interest rates are spiking!

[-] grizzzlay@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I imagine folks wouldn't have a problem with this if the ads weren't already so aggressive. Numerous ads before and during the content break it up too much. And if the content is extremely short form, it completely ruins the experience.

The number of ads and their length should be proportional to the length of the video. And any creator doing built-in ads should also not be able to inject a bunch of other ads. Burying content is an easy way to get avoided.

Print media had limits for advertisements, heck, in magazines they were premium real estate for the finest graphic designers to put together incredible imagery to get your attention. This level of care (not necessarily images or what have you) has yet to translate to the web.

[-] Aurix@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago

I never thought YouTube's business model was very sustainable. As the world economy goes down, so does the value of ads. Creators or consumers need to pay up for all the bandwidth and storage. The question is about what is a reasonable price. Are low tiers for $3/mo. possible along with premium 4k options or does everything need to be at more than that?

[-] kool_newt@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

That's funny, I'm testing YouTube alternatives.

[-] PhatInferno@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago

Suggestions?

My issue is that the content creators i watch probably arnt going to leave... and im sure ad blocks will find a way around it after a month or so

[-] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

If they really block adblockers, I will subscribe. To Nebula. It's got everything I want, adfree (including sponsored segments), extra content and is cheaper. And the content creators get a bigger share of the money.

[-] nodiet@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

There is nothing stopping you from subscribing to nebula right now. Since I haven't gotten any ads on YouTube in many years and even use sponsorblock to skip those annoying video segments I started thinking about how I am basically leeching off of most content creators. Subscribing to nebula was a no-brainer. It's about $4.16 per month on the yearly plan and lets me support all content creators I watch on there at once rather than subscribing to each and every one of them on patreon and I still don't see any ads

[-] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 0 points 1 year ago

Unpopular opinion: I like paying for YouTube Premium to get rid of ads and still make it possible for creators and YouTube to get paid and survive an keep offering me entertainment.

In addition you also get YouTube Music so no need to pay for Spotify. It might not have as good features but I listen to music specifically so I only search for what I want to listen to and don't want any algorithms anyway.

Alternate headline: Users test using only YouTube ReVanced to bypass this new system

[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago

Never heard of this, does it work on desktop? NewPipe is my go to on my phone, but some content I need a large screen to watch

[-] sodium@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

YouTube feels unusable without an ad-blocker. I've gotten like 30min crazy conspiracy videos as an ad that shit is bonkers.

[-] CoffeeBlood91@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Now we need a new video platform.

[-] MisterD@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

The bandwidth needed would be a problem unless it's peer to peer

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