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[-] MrsDoyle@lemmy.world 71 points 4 months ago

Struwwelpeter. We had an English copy handed down by my grandfather. It's insane.

Example: "Die gar traurige Geschichte mit dem Feuerzeug ("The Very Sad Tale with the Matches"): A girl plays with matches, accidentally ignites herself and burns to death. Only her cats mourn her."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struwwelpeter

[-] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 24 points 4 months ago

I still have my toddler books with the graphic Struwwelpeter running in with shears and cutting the thumbs off the boy who wouldn’t stop sucking them.

It’s a… “nostalgic” childhood trauma?

[-] impudentmortal@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

("The Story of the Wild Huntsman") is the only story not primarily focused on children. In it, a hare steals a hunter's musket and eyeglasses and begins to hunt the hunter. In the ensuing chaos, the hare's child is burned by hot coffee and the hunter jumps into a well.

lol wut?

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[-] vis4valentine@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago
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[-] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 47 points 4 months ago

Aww cute bunnies!

Watership down.

[-] Stern@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

I just got the graphic novel for my ten year old niece. She likes the bunnies. I am a great uncle.

[-] onlooker@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

Yeah, definitely not kid friendly. I'd much rather give them a light-hearted story about puppies, like The Plague Dogs.

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

Not Old Yeller, or Where The Red Fern Grows?

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[-] Whirling_Cloudburst@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago

The children's bible. /s

[-] ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago
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[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 32 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Coraline is pretty intense.

A quote from Neil Gaiman about his editor's daughter, who served as the book's first audience

I told her, "You know, we kind of have you to thank for all this, because you weren’t scared by it." And she said, "Actually, I was terrified. But I wanted to know what happened next. I knew if I let anybody know I was scared, I wouldn’t find out."

[-] spittingimage@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago

Mrs Frisby and the Rats of NIMH. That author's imagination was daaaaark.

[-] PeterLossGeorgeWall@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 4 months ago

A lot of the original versions of the brothers Grimm stories. For example Cinderella, one of the sisters chops off bits of her feet so that she can try and get into the shoe Cinderella dropped. I think the Prince only figured it out because she's dripping in blood.

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

A lot of those were meant to keep children in line. Also to teach girls that the only way they'll be able to get ahead in life is to marry into money.

[-] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

But it doesn't pay off for the stepsister at all. She's just bleeding, the story is about the triumph of The Grind- Cinderella stuck to virtue, hard work, etc.

[-] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Well the lessons there were a) don't be a conniving bitch, and b) don't be a stepmom or stepsister.

[-] clickyello@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

the Brothers Grimm versions were not the original versions of any of those fairytales! they were edgy remakes! idk why or how that thinking became so common or why I care so much!

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[-] Drusas@kbin.run 24 points 4 months ago

Where the Red Fern Grows (for older children)

[-] satanmat@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Such a good book. But yeah even when at (all grown up) I read it to my son, I bawled

[-] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Coraline. The book is significantly creepier than the movie and manages to perfectly strike the uncanny valley

[-] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Is coralline supposed to be "kid friendly"? It's one of the few books I wasn't comfortable reading in alone in the dark, no way I let a kid read that

[-] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Yup, story goes that the publisher thought it was too scary for children, so Neil Gaiman, the author, told the publisher to read it to her daughter. The daughter said it wasn't scary, and so it was published as a children's book. Years later, the daughter said that she was actually scared but lied about it because she wanted to know the ending

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The original Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark books, with the fucked up heroin withdrawal style illustrations

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[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 months ago

based. The chick from the spiderbite story STILL lives rent free in my memory, that, and the grim reaper pointing

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[-] Jilanico@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago
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[-] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 months ago

This is great and all, but what I really need is an alternative picture of shel silverstein to put on the back of the book.

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[-] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 months ago

A series of unfortunate events was pretty bad for me.

My grandpa kept buying them, and i read them because I didn't know how to not reqd a book given to me, but they definitely taught me how to say no to a gift.

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[-] proctonaut@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

I think The Velveteen Rabbit is pretty fucked.

[-] Iunnrais@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago

It wouldn’t have been so bad if they didn’t burn everything at the end. I mean, I get that sanitation in that situation was pretty darn important, but it was the author’s choice to choose something that required that outcome. That ending made me sad for a long time. Definitely didn’t know how to handle it. Not sure I can even now.

[-] Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago

I was probably a child when I last read it, so I might have some details wrong, but here's how I remember it:

A child is given a toy rabbit. A fairy visits the toy rabbit and gives it the gift of awareness. The child and the toy bond with each other and grow to love each other. Unfortunately, the child becomes dangerously ill, and after the sickness their possessions must be incinerated to prevent contamination. This includes the toy rabbit. However, the fairy arrives at the last minute, declaring that because the rabbit learned to love it was therefore a real rabbit, and with a wave of her wand transforms the toy into a living being and whisks it off to the woods were it lives happily ever after with the other rabbits.

So I guess my question is this - Do you think the velveteen rabbit and the fairy are real? Or is the fairy's magic an invention of the child's mind?

I think the narrative required the velveteen rabbit to be burned because it was so horrible. To the grown ups it's just velveteen, but to the child it's a dear friend. Even as children we know that being burned is horrible. So the child invents a solution where their toy can live happily ever after even after it's thrown in the fire.

I think there's definitely some Heaven and Hell symbolism to be had too. The velveteen rabbit was damned to hellfire unless it accepted love into its heart during its life. Then it is granted into the afterlife. In fact, you could say it was reincarnated into a higher spiritual form.

The story explores coping with loss as seen from the point of view of a child. Even though the velveteen rabbit was just a toy, the child has given it a soul. If you have a soul, when you die you go to the afterlife and live happily ever after. It's a comforting story to a child, and one that many people around the world have believed throughout the ages.

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[-] Stern@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark. Actually just the art alone does the traumatizing really.

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[-] MissJinx@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

I would say almost all of them. At least the classics

[-] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Little red riding hood - wolf eats your grandma.
Hansel and Gretel - forced out by stepmother, forced to kill a witch to survive.
Three little pigs - wolf kills your brother's.

The "classics" are really bad

[-] 200ok@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

No wonder we're all empaths. And we used video games to escape our feelings.

= ADHD

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago

Scary Stories To Tell In The Dark sure the fuck isn't a cuddly-looking bait-and-switch, but it is plainly aimed at a younger audience. Basically a collection of standard campfire stories and spooky e-mail forwards... with nightmare-fuel watercolor illustrations.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

Honorable mention to all Newbery Medal winners, AKA the Dead Dog Award.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Bridge To Terabithia goes a step further.

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

Not a book, but as a kid I absolutely loved The Land Before Time.

It's such a terribly sad and traumatizing movie for a young child.

[-] datavoid@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

I read The Kite Runner as a kid, that was a fun one

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Virtually anything with a Newberry Medal is highly likely to have a traumatizing beloved character death somewhere in it. Maniac Magee and Bridge to Terabithia were good examples from my childhood.

[-] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago

I guess bridge to terebinthia I read late enough that it wasn't traumatizing, and the beautiful image of a room that lights up gold in the sunset stuck with me until today.

Otoh we got an audiobook with a picture of two kids smiling riding bicycles for the car ride on a trip to the beach one year, and like 30 minutes in, one of the kids died and that was awful.

[-] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago

The book in the "Little House on the Prairie" series- (the one where Laura gets married and has a baby) and their childless neighbors ask to buy their baby. Is that enough trauma by itself? No. Not quite. It's the lack of empathy from Laura or her husband, they treat them so badly, like they're dangerous.

[-] lattrommi@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

Charlotte's Web.

[-] meanmon13@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago

The other night I read my son an old children's book named "Prickly Pie". He wasn't traumatized by it but I could easily see a kid getting traumatized by in. In the story a young hedgehog decides to skip school and ends up being hog tied by a sly fox and almost cooked over a fire.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

Hans Christian Andersen fables. At least it traumatised me long ago, unlike any other fairy tale books, which i had plenty.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 5 points 4 months ago

I don't remember it very well, but I know I cried for like 2 hours when I finished "A Dog Called Kitty."

[-] ChexMax@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Did anybody else read tangerine as a kid? I still think about it pretty often and I'm 30.

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[-] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 months ago

The Little Match Girl.

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