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submitted 4 months ago by solo@slrpnk.net to c/world@lemmy.world

The Israeli military says its Northern Command has approved operational plans for war with Lebanon.

Israel is ready for an “all-out war” in Lebanon and has plans approved for an offensive targeting Hezbollah, officials have said.

Israel and Hezbollah have been engaged in border fighting since shortly after the start of the war on Gaza, following the October 7 attacks on Israel. The confrontation is increasingly expanding, with both sides saying they are ready to go to war.

More than 400 people have been killed in Lebanon, including journalists and paramedics, over the past eight months, with 25 deaths in Israel. At least 90,000 people have been displaced in Lebanon, and more than 60,000 have been forced from their homes in northern Israel.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 166 points 4 months ago

That's because Netanyahu needs a forever war to keep his dictatorship. That's always what this has been about.

[-] Count042@lemmy.ml 48 points 4 months ago

Forever wars only work against enemies that can't really do anything back.

Israel is about to enter the 'find out' stage.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 64 points 4 months ago

They will end up finding out that the US will absolutely have their back despite the genocide of Palestinians so that the US can keep their middle east ally. You know, like that one asshole who always starts fights because their big friends help out when they start getting their ass kicked.

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[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 14 points 4 months ago

I'm curious what you mean. Hasn't Hezbollah been targeting Israel for decades? There's already been the South Lebanon Conflict and the 2008 Lebanon War.

What will they find out that they didn't already know?

[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

I think if they do a full-blown invasion, they’ll find out that Hezbollah (and quite possibly the regular Lebanese military) is a much bigger, experienced, and sophisticated enemy than Hamas. Also, an invasion of Lebanon could easily attract third parties (like Syria-based militias or even other countries).

If it’s a limited, restrained operation to create a buffer zone, it might not lead to escalation. There’s apparently a peace deal on the table that would accomplish just that but Hezbollah wants Israel to agree to the “ceasefire for hostages” deal in Gaza first.

But let’s not forget that Netanyahu is going to jail on corruption charges as soon as he isn’t prime minister. He’s alienated everyone except the extremist parties on the right so, ultimately, they’ll be able to control policy just by threatening to leave the fragile coalition government. So, I don’t know if I’d bet on a limited, restrained operation.

[-] solo@slrpnk.net 12 points 4 months ago

I think if they do a full-blown invasion, they’ll find out that Hezbollah (and quite possibly the regular Lebanese military) is a much bigger, experienced, and sophisticated (...)

Oh they know well. Israel has invaded Lebanon twice (at least?) and both times they failed in a humiliating way.

[-] johker216@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

You need to understand that most people's understanding of the conflicts in the Middle East started on October 7, 2023.

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[-] Count042@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The situation is not static at all.

Hezbollah has significantly improved upon their capabilities during that time period. Also, as a corollary to this, weapons technology in general has significantly advanced in a form that brings various capabilities to state actors that didn't use to have the tech or financial base to support them.

Guidance systems, avionics, electronics, and drones are changing the face of warfare in a way that removes a lot of the tech advantages rich nations had over poorer nations. But, the richer nations (And this isn't just about Israel, but most of the western states) are sticking their heads in their sand because their weapons manufactures are used to being used more for laundering tax payer money to the right people then for making great weapons. The main drones for the US cost between 30-40 million EACH!

Furthermore, Israel is going through all of the copium that settler colonialist societies go through when their martial superiority is starting to come into question. They clutch harder to their beliefs that make them feel secure. Israel withdrew in 2006 and declared themselves victors when it was obvious that they were not victors at all. Now, that is all that Israel remembers about 2006. That they won. That is what they truly believe.

There are a lot of delusions that are about to break here. That is why I say that if they try with Hezbollah, that it will be a 'Find Out' stage.

EDIT: Also, people tend to use the wrong measurement for what they consider to make an army strong. One of the most important factors is a willingness for a military to take causalities. There are very few armies stronger than Hezbollah by this measurement, whereas Israel has been very weak on this front since the early 2000's. Having a conscript army will do that.

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[-] solo@slrpnk.net 7 points 4 months ago

That’s always what this has been about.

I would add Zionist settler colonialism in the mix

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[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 66 points 4 months ago

Israel continues to get worse and worse.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

If someone could just figure out a way to point them at Russia, rather than picking fights with everyone else.

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 53 points 4 months ago

next up, invade random countries... don't mind me I'm just going through Hitler's to-do list.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

Doing a Blitzkreg to win some Lebensraum and no I don't understand why this would be problematic.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

The Südetenland is already waiting to be liberated and fulfill their genetic destiny!

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[-] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The Nazi ideology is alive and rules in Tel Aviv. They just changed who the supreme race is.

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[-] CaptainKickass@lemmy.world 52 points 4 months ago

They're doing the whole Nazi Germany playbook now

A two front war is never a good idea

[-] solo@slrpnk.net 43 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

A two front war is never a good idea

Not too sure tho, how bombing and starving civilians including children on a strip of land for 8-9 months qualifies as war, now that I think about it.

[-] sunzu@kbin.run 6 points 4 months ago

Fake news refuses to use the proper term...

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 4 months ago

No, now they're going to actually go to war instead of bombing defenseless children. The other front would be Egypt if Sisi hadn't sold his soul to Uncle Sam.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 41 points 4 months ago

Can we please stop giving this insane bloodthirsty man and his sidekicks weapons and intelligence support?

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Actual headline: America is ready for an all out war with Lebanon

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 months ago

US has been trying to prevent an Israeli-Hezbollah war. Even al Jazeera says this in the third sentence in the linked article.

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Syria%E2%80%93Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_coalition

If the US joins Israel, that pulls in Russia, Iran, Syria, Iraq, and since Russia and NK just did their deal. Likely NK as well.

AIPAC has bought off enough of both sides of the aisle, that our politicians will say we join.

This ain't the same WW3 shit we've been hearing about since the 50s. This shit can pop off at any moment.

Israel isn't acting rationally and Biden has repeatedly said he will support them under any possible circumstances. So what the fuck is going to happen?

[-] FarFarAway@startrek.website 8 points 4 months ago

Seriously, what tf are they thinking?

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[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago

Israel isn't going to stop are they?

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[-] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Israel: History repeats itself, it has been a quite 100 years, time for another of those great wars, World War, I think ot was called.

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[-] Naich@lemmings.world 8 points 4 months ago

Oh great. That will help with everything.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Getting the bighead from all the big US funds they have to play with

[-] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Totally worth not having health care so we can support Israel starting wars around the Middle East.
-_-

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