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[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 159 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Good. This is the kinda shit Dems should keep doing. It doesn't matter if it sounds petty, these assholes are a threat to our democracy, they should not be allowed to spew their lies without consequences. If the press refuses to do their job, it falls to whoever is closest to a Republican.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 68 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Buttigieg should be front and center a lot. He's whip smart, a great speaker, and really relatable

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[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thank you, I’m so tired of this loyalty to decorum. Call them what they are, authoritarian regressives

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Christofascists

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Step 1: sell the press to the rich

Step 2: everything is shitty now, but why?

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[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 87 points 4 months ago (11 children)

“I’m wondering if there’s some point- if you’ve identified some point where you will stop, where the administration will stop, where the federal government will stop this requirement and let the market decide..."

Let the market decide? Sure let's do that. As of now, let's have the U.S. government stop subsidizing the oil industry to the tune of $20 billion+ per year and see who keeps buying gas powered cars when gas is $15-20 per gallon. Better still, pour that $20 billion into EV car development and green energy and help save the fucking planet.

[–] Masterkraft0r@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)

not EVs. public transport. or at least mostly that and a little EVs

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Both, in particular, EV public transport. Something like this would be nice.

[–] force@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Do NOT use battery electric busses when you could use trolleybusses. Or even better, just use trams

That being said, anything is better than diesel busses

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 22 points 4 months ago

For future readers, the quote in this comment is from GOP Representative Perry who was then immediately proven wrong by Buttigieg.

[–] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 4 months ago

Let the market decide" is like saying "Let the intoxicated person drive the car."

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[–] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 53 points 4 months ago (7 children)

I just wish Mr. Buttigieg wasn't confined to such a low-stakes role in the administration. It's great that he gets the occasional moments like this, but he's not exactly being set up for a run at the Presidency in 2028.

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 38 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Dude's only 42. He's got plenty of time. Hell you can't even get elected these days if you aren't getting social security.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I dunno if I'd consider Secratary of Transportation as a low stakes role, he's been out and about getting IIJA funds out across the country and there to present new rail, highway, air and marine infrastructure improvements.

Plus, if an unspeakable fate were to befall thirteen specific individuals, simultaneously rendering them unable to perform their duties, you'd have a President Buttigieg.

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[–] ozoned@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A lot of GOP voters don't really care about facts sadly. I've talked to some that insist Jan 6th wasn't an issue.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A lot? Pretty much all of them. Look at how many lies trump said during the debate... they'll lie directly to their base and their base isn't even intelligent enough to question it.

[–] DrDeadCrash@programming.dev 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They even know they're being lied to, and still go along.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because they somehow think the lying will benefit them and not the people they hate.

Predicting a republican's reaction to any issue is easy because they are all grifters.

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

All of these hearings serve no purpose other than to give Congress people 4 minutes of time to create some sound bites for the campaign.

Questions are widely leading or very inaccurate or even just lies ... If they ask a question at all. Some just spout garbage for a few minutes.

[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Not always. Both Trump's NY fraud conviction, and election interference (hush money) felonies came out of the Michael Cohen hearing, specifically from AOC questions.

Your overall point is absolutely correct, though. It's even more frustrating when it's easy to see how powerful these hearings can be.

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[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (8 children)

If Biden gets replaced, please be Pete

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

the bar is so low. did everyone forget who this guy is?

[–] Liz@midwest.social 10 points 4 months ago

I shall never forget as long as I live. Katie Porter or AOC would be better choices.

[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What are you referring to?

[–] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I would like a reminder as well

[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 months ago

People took campaign shitslinging to heart

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

He's a milquetoast centrist moderate who will champion the same neoliberal policies that led us to this current state of crisis in America. He was also a proud McKinsey consultant and I think he worked with the CIA. During the election I thought his main issues were just not enough experience, though (he was just mayor of a small town basically). Social issue wise he's better than Trump still. Anyone is, though lol.

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[–] JohnOliver@feddit.dk 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is it too late for him to replace Biden?

[–] paf0@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (9 children)
[–] EveryoneDiesAlone@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Whitmer or whitehouse woukd be better, but the way the DNC plays things, they would obviously choose the weakest candidate for no reason other than to not seem biased against their opposition. It’s fucked. The whole thing is fucked.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I think it’s a bit more nuanced than that. They’ll obviously choose the most neoliberal candidate they think they can get away with, and try to pass him (and it will be “him”) off as “progressive”

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

If only there was some kind of formal method for identifying and vetting and selecting the party representatives, as part of - like - an election or something. I feel like if maybe we'd started back in January and had a bunch of debates between these people early on, we might be able to include ourselves in the discussion.

Instead, I guess we're just going to wishcast our favorite blue state governor into the White House, until the DNC Convension disabuses us of our delusions.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Him or Bernie should have been president

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 19 points 4 months ago

He was kind of a wet paper sack sitting the primaries, if he'd come in with this energy he might've gotten somewhere.

[–] Maeve@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They called him Mayo Pete for valid reasons, perhaps a refresher is in order.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

Miracle whip Pete?

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

I accept my anger and cynicism; I forgive myself for letting these people anger me. I try to “turn the other cheek” and simply be a better person than them. But…

…the more i hear these people talk, the more I’d love to see something excruciatingly painful to happen to them.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

central planning model and this dictatorial policy

Fuck you, Scott Perry.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Its the same shit from these people day in and day out. The Reagan Playbook is half-disintegrated in their hands but they can't stop running it.

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