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Can anyone translate this? I think it's Ottoman Turkish, I could be wrong

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[–] atomkarinca@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

yes this is in ottoman turkish.

top two lines: "bütün dünya işçileri birleşse rahmet dünyaya hakim olacaktır" translation: "if all the workers of the world unite, mercy will rule the world"

right middle is the number 12.

left middle is abbreviation ş.h. but i don't know what that stands for. the communist party at that time was sosyalist fırka so it would be s.f so i can't take another guess.

edit: fixed the last word.

[–] DengsCats@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for your translation

[–] atomkarinca@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 months ago

no problem. it's a really cool find.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

@DengsCats@lemmygrad.ml

Yes, it's Ottoman Turkish.

I am a Turk, btw.

Where did you get this? Etsy? Ebay?

[–] DengsCats@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I found in a antique shop, while visiting Xi'an, China.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Were you just there?

I'm going in 2025.

[–] DengsCats@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yes, just came back. Xi'an is very beautiful. Also, lots of Muslims there so finding halal food wasn't a problem. And a lot of ancient places to explore

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 3 months ago

I mean, I don't "plan" to go to Xi'an so far, but I've thought of it.

I want to go to Xinjiang.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I plan to go to Xi'an. Is that in Xinjiang?

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

More to the east. It's the traditional eastern terminus of the silk road, also often served as capital during history.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oho, nice

I should go there, but I want to prioritize Chongqing.

[–] Munrock@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Good news! They're a 6 hour trip from one another on high speed rail, with one change.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 months ago

Not too shabby of a time... I might take it!

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago (4 children)

There were Soviet Ottomans?

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There were communist Turks.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but Kaypakkaya is the overrated one that only Westerners know.

(But what happened to him was horrible, no denying.)

But the communist movement in Turkey is powerful, historically, compared to other communist movements that didn't achieve full power. I'd say that places that have big communist movements but aren't AES is Nepal, India, and that kingdom in Africa that I forgot the name of...

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Who else would you recommend in Turkey?

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 months ago

Look into the TKP's history.

Especially in the lead-up to the 1980 coup.

[–] atomkarinca@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 3 months ago
[–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 months ago

If you ever feel depressed in the Western core...remember there were communists in the Ottoman empire that likely lived through the collapse.