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Especially when those 2nd, 3rd, + properties are being used as passive short term rentals. Observing the state of the housing situation "Hmm there aren't enough homes for normal families to each have a chance, I should turn this extra property of mine into a vacation rental." does this make said person a POS?

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[-] Hikermick@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Why would you give a shit what anyone thinks? Charge a fair price, give them what they paid for. Don't be bloodsucker leach and follow your conscience.

[-] ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago

Not ethical, yes pos

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

No. Unless it's like a family situation where it requires it I think it's unethical. People live in tents in the park in my city because housing is scarce and wildly expensive. It's not right to be able to hoard property.

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[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 month ago

Not really. It is ethical to build multiple units on the same property, but owning two individual units isn't.

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[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No

Edit: to clarify, no it’s not ethical. Yes it makes person a pos.

[-] Tedrow@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

I agree with you that it makes a person a POS, but it's also necessary in our current system. It would take so much change to fix this.

[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

One aspect not mentioned is that sometimes, second homes are in places that have a good supply of houses available. This makes them cheaper, and easier to afford. It also has more potential to grow in value down the road. If that's the case, no issue. If not, it's complicated.

[-] Tedrow@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I might be on the fringe here, but I think second home ownership is always unethical in any economy. It is, however, a necessary evil in our current society.

Edit: I don't feel like responding to everyone, so I'll elaborate a bit here. Profiting off of something another person requires in order to live a happy/healthy life is unethical. In the current society we live in, landlords are a necessary evil. This is broad strokes, there are fringe scenarios where one might end up with another and not use it for profit. To be clear, I also think owning a second home to live in part time is unethical as well.

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

What about in an economy with more houses than people?

[-] greencactus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Mh, I agree, but also disagree to some extent. I am a Democratic socialist and think that means of production should be used for the greater good, so keeping a house in order to make profit is exactly that: private property of means of production with the goal of $$$.

However, I think the question goes deeper than that. I think it's absolutely valid for a family to have a secondary home, e.g. when they want to go to a vacation. Sometimes renting out a hostel is difficult, one might not like the hostels available, or a plethora of other reasons. As soon as the person owning the house uses it for themselves for a significant amount of time, it isn't really a means of production anymore, but a private property. What is important in my opinion is that the time when the house isn't used by the owner, other people have a chance to use it - cheap AirBnB covering the costs maybe?

Tl;DR - renting the house out to others to make profit: yes, unethical. Earning money by a human necessity is, in my opinion, not right. Using the house yourself and/or renting it for sustenance cost: absolutely valid. You don't use the means of production to take money from the people, you use it for your own (and society's) benefit.

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[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee -2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, a second house for traveling workers or seasonal migrants is fine, bit luxury but fine, but renting them out is where you're starting to be a dick.

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[-] TheBigBrother@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fuck what anyone else think mate, if you can do it go for it. 99% of people spend a lot of time complaining about everything, let them alone with their protagonist syndrome.

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