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[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 45 points 3 months ago
[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 59 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The joke is that Einstein calls God a genius, for planning all this stuff, when God didn't plan anything - he did it on a whim. It relies partially on the characterisation, as across Um Sábado Qualquer's comics, God is often represented as petty, clueless and/or dumb. Like this:

[-] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago

It makes way more sense in the context of this comic.

[-] lawrence@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Flat Earth confirmed.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 44 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

God just threw the universe together, but Einstein took the time to understand it.

Alternatively, the Bible has an extremely naive (and often counterfactual) understanding of natural science. If the world really was created by an all-knowing God and His word revealed in “inerrant” holy scripture, you’d expect it to be a whole lot better at matching the science.

[-] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Oooh, I like your alternative take a lot. The whole idea of the Bible being written as a result of "hearing the voice of God" or being divinely inspired is always a fun topic because it's impossible to define.

Evidently when John Nash (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Forbes_Nash_Jr.) was asked how a logical and smart person like him could believe that he was being recruited by aliens from outer space to save the world he replied "Because the ideas I had about supernatural beings came to me in the same way that my mathematical ideas did. So I took them seriously."

I always thought people who were "hearing the voice of God" were experiencing the same thing. Something irrational happens but you interpret it in a way that just feels true to you as an individual, and it's so impactful that you choose to believe and test it.

[-] owsei@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago

While I do like this interpretation, the comic, Um Sábado Qualquer, depitcs gods as kinda clueless/clumsy, leading me to interpret the comic as: god just kinda did it without noticing what he was doing, than someone came and understood what was happening. (but attributing the complexity and geniousness to god)

BUT, in real life, what you said is a pretty solid argument

[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago

Checkmate you several thousands years old scripture !

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Not so much a dunk on historical texts as it is on people who believe that something written thousands of years ago is somehow infallible.

[-] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

I think the joke is that God is capable of creating something without fully understanding it. But the comic seems to indicate that God wasn't aware of his ability to do that, which I think is a bit odd. Even humans are aware that we can confuse ourselves by creating complex systems that not even we understand. I assume God would also be aware that he's smart enough to trick himself, but who knows?

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

But in what way is it supposed to be funny?

This just seems to comment on religion, but it doesn't do so in a way that makes any sense.

It seems to poke fun at god... But it does it with literally zero teeth.

There are much more valid paradoxes to point out in the imaginary idea of a god, an "omnipotent all-powerful force for good" cannot exist in a world where evil exists, or that force is either not good, not omnipotent, or not all-powerful.

[-] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Good question. I don't think it's actually funny so I don't have an answer for that. I agree with your take.

[-] zewm@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

This answer was even more confusing.

[-] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

It's just my personal speculation. What's your interpretation of the joke?

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Einstein smart! God dumb!

I assumed it was mocking Einstein for overthinking since God looks sad at the end.

[-] FalseMyrmidon@kbin.run 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Could Jesus microwave a burrito so hot that not even he could eat it?

[-] Iapar@feddit.org 1 points 3 months ago

Of course. Why do you ask?

[-] Sidhean@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

My baseline take is that none of that stuff mattered when God was working. Humanity over-analyzed the fuck out of reality and came up with modern science, and God just.. never having thought about gravity too deeply? The last panel gave me "DM when they realize their party comes up with an actual Peasant Railgun." You say later on that it feels like a lame critique of religion. I think you're closer to the author's original intent, but I think I'm funnier /j

[-] dwindling7373@feddit.it 0 points 3 months ago

"We" are focusing on the wrong aspects of creation. God meant you to look at the sky and the trees, by overanalyzing what he built you are missing the point.

It's meant to make you think in a goofy way, humour is not always meant to have you rolling to the ground in tears.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago

...

How the fuck is looking closer at whatever part of the universe you find most appealing "missing the point"?

I find your interpretation even more offensive than the lack of one.

[-] dwindling7373@feddit.it 0 points 3 months ago

You seem to believe I do poorly drawn comics that tries to fill the market gap for nerdy teologicians.

I do not and frankly, my dear, I'm not invested in your emotional reaction either.

[-] burgers@toast.ooo 15 points 3 months ago

why does god have invisible hair

[-] Pssk@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

it is the fabric of space-time

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 points 3 months ago

Carlos Ruas is a beast.

[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee -2 points 3 months ago

Einstein was a good Christian.

this post was submitted on 26 Jul 2024
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