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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by garfaagel@sh.itjust.works to c/map_enthusiasts@sopuli.xyz

Taken from here:

https://landgeist.com/2023/09/02/annual-working-hours-in-europe/

https://landgeist.com/2023/08/22/annual-working-hours-in-asia/

Some other countries if somebody is curious:

  • Brazil: 1708
  • Canada: 1689
  • Mexico: 2137
  • South Africa: 2191
  • USA: 1765
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[-] odium@programming.dev 60 points 1 year ago

Japan and South Korea seem low, but keep in mind that they have a huge issue of people being expected to work overtime without documenting it.

[-] WowSuchInternetz@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

There is a large part time worker population in Japan. If you remove part timers the average is around 2000 hours for 2019

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

First thing I noticed as well. Unreported overtime I guess.

[-] StreetKid@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

In South Korea you are not allowed to work more than 52 hours a week. Generally, you work approximately 40 hours a week.

[-] clutch@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

40 is what you are allowed to report, and doesn't count compulsory participation in dinners and karaoke/noraebangs

[-] 768@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Are there strikes in KR regularly?

[-] lasagna@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think this accounts for unpaid hours and the not at all voluntary socials in some countries such as Japan.

[-] ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz 38 points 1 year ago

Wtf is this? Why are the colors not the same number for both maps?

[-] WhiteRaven22@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Probably to better highlight the local differences for both areas. The entire scale is significantly higher for the bottom map.

[-] ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But the colours should reflect that. This map makes it seem like people in China and India work same hours like some European countries.

[-] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

yeah lol, they could have just picked new colors for the new bottom bins and it would be objectively better without tradeoffs

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 1 year ago

Hardworking Germans and lazy Greeks, amiright!?!? /s

[-] redballooon@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Same thing within Germany: the wealthier the person the less hours need to be spend working.

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Also, in Germany, it is still common for married women with children to work half-days only.

[-] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago

I find it doesn't make sense to compare annual hours worked by employee.

Instead, only annual hours by person living in that region should be compared. Because otherwise, more part-time workers (meaning more working hours in total) dilute and decrease the average.

[-] absurdAuroch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

While that statistic would also be interesting, that would be dominated by completely different factors: pensioners, female employment, duration of education

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 year ago

Even if these numbers are correct they dont tell the whole story. Im moving from hungary to sweden and the stress and amountof work people do is a fraction of whats in hungary.

[-] 768@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I wonder how work 'intensity' could be measured. Maybe intensity is only measurable through indirect means like prevalence of overworking-related diseases or a calculated number considering annual working hours and productivity, adjusting GDP per capita for relative productivity...

[-] telllos@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

If you work with Danish people, good luck catching anyone after 3pm.

Good for them

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Denmark doing it right

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago

40 hours a week x 50 weeks a year is 2,000 then whatever holidays on top of that. I can see 1765 being right for the US.

[-] Banda@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Seems low to me. There are 12 federally recognized holidays. So 2 weeks vacation plus 2 weeks and 2 days of holidays is still about 1900 hours. That’s if you work zero hours over overtime too.

[-] neblem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

At least more salaried workers will be paid overtime with the new rules thus week in the US.

[-] odium@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

Interesting that Russia went from one of the highest in Europe to one of the lowest in Asia.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

I don't like that the colour scales are different ranges between the maps. Makes it look like China works less hours than Greece unless you look closely enough.

[-] verysoft@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Horrible maps, arbitrary scales that arent even equivalent across maps.

See, we Germans get more shit done in less time.

[-] redballooon@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Or we have a lot part time workers. That map doesn’t tell overly much.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 year ago

Fuck me, I'm gonna go over 3k this year

[-] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sorry not buying it. All of the European top countries are pulling these numbers out of their asses.

Edit: misunderstanding, I mean Russia, Poland and Creek.

[-] freedomenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Source: dude just trust me

[-] drudoo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Working 37-40h is fulltime with 6 weeks of vacation + national holidays, this makes sense.

[-] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Misunderstanding, by top I mean Russia, Poland, creek. I am Finnish, so Nordics are ok

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