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I've read my fair share of theory but it has been a while since I list reas a piece. I think the last actual theory I read was The Jakarta Method somewhere in may. Since I've been giving some more important tasks by the party now, I figured I might start reading the theory list again.

I wondered if the grad had any tips for reading theory. Do you write things down? Take notes? Save important paragraphs? Etc.

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[–] ReadFanon@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some people swear by reading two+ books at once. I marvel at people who can do that. It might work for you though.

My recommendation is to set up focus mode or whatever it is on your phone. It's best not to have notifications distracting you.

I'd also recommend not reading on your phone but using an ebook reader or the physical book instead. Use your phone for pulling up definitions, Wikipedia entries, articles etc. that will help you to better understand what's going on in the theory, as needed.

Highlight passages which speak to you, which are of particular interest, which are the important parts of the book if you were to make a short summary, and especially which you don't understand or feel like you could understand better.

Revise the highlighted passages each chapter to help consolidate your learnings and to see if further on in the chapter you now understand the highlighted parts make sense to you (and thus can be deleted) or if you need to do some research, post a question to social media or a reading group etc.

If you find that you're highlighting more than a few passages because you don't understand them in a chapter then that's a red flag. Either the theory is too "deep" in conversations with prior texts (this is something that happens with philosophy) and you probably need to read what came before it in order to really grasp what's being discussed in this book or you might need to read the prior work(s) of the author.

I would recommend engaging in some extra processes to help reinforce the learning. This might mean talking to someone (it can even be a pet!) about your learning. Having a friend who is open to hearing about your learnings is really valuable here - giving them updates on each chapter is great for keeping motivation up and for reinforcing learning. You might want to draft a mini essay or summary of the theory. It doesn't have to be perfect or make sense because you aren't going to submit it anywhere but the act of typing out the learnings can really enrich your learning experience and consolidate the learnings.

I'm a savage when it comes to books. I will underline passages and write notes in the margins. I'd recommend it. Or you can put sticky notes in your books if you prefer to. You can even get transparent sticky notes to place over pages and write on.

I'd also recommend reading groups, podcasts, lectures etc. to enrich your learning.

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm only able to read theory during psychosis episodes where I isolate myself from everyone else, then I copy and paste paragraphs I like to send them to unsuspecting liberals and try to explain it to an imaginary audience.

[–] Avnar@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im glad Im not the only that stops reading and has long "conersations" with their imaginary audience. Lol

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Theory version of imagining you're in your highschool talent show singing the song you're listening to and imagining them thinking you're so cool

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me, it depends.

I don't fully understand anything till I've read it multiple times. Not necessarily the whole thing. It helps to take breaks between reads. I can read a text today, tomorrow, next week, and next month and arrive at completely different interpretations/conclusions every time.

So if I really need to understand a text, I'll read it and re-read it, with different length breaks in between.

Most of the time I don't need to bother with such depth. For example I might read 'Better Fewer, but Better' and get a lot from it, making sure the main conclusions are clear. Then if I read it a year later, a lot of the details will jump out at me that I hadn't noticed much before. Like the names of the journals that Lenin and his comrades/enemies/frenemies are writing in, the dates of different movements (how slow things were and then how fast came the revolution), the nuances in the arguments of the different movements/groups. While this is all interesting to know, it's not always essential. So I have to make a choice: read widely or read closely; do I read the same text twice or two texts, for example?

Then there are texts that I need to do something with. Maybe I'm writing something. If so, I'll make notes. I use four methods depending on what I need.

  1. Annotating. Reading a physical text, I usually underline key phrases/words (or highlight if digital), draw a line down the margin instead of underlining a whole paragraph, use asterisks for key quotes, question marks (for things I don't understand or which don't add up), ticks (for parts that seem incontrovertible), exclamation marks (for parts that are factually shocking or shockingly incorrect), ellipses (where I think a point needs to be expanded further because it's interesting, poorly evidenced, or would lead me down an interesting path). Using two or three symbols for emphasis.
  2. Marginal notes. I might write a question. Or write a word or two next to each paragraph summarising it's main 'move' so that I can recap the whole argument by reading a string of these moves in the margin. This helps to keep track of complex arguments. Or I might use one word to describe each premise in a section/argument (I'll write these at the start of the section so I have my summary of the argument next to the heading).
  3. Copying select quotes into a document or a physical notebook, adding some analysis, criticism, synthesis, and evaluation. I'll focus on the most interesting parts and get to know a few sections really well.
  4. If I really need to know a text, I'll copy the text (or a section/para/chapter) into a word processor, then go through and reword each paragraph with my own summary, keeping the 'quoteable' words/phrases/paragraphs as quotes. In this way I'll create a summary of the whole text, to which I'll add criticism, synthesis, and evaluation.

Honestly, though, the most effective method for me is just to read. I prefer epubs so that I can read on a smaller screen (e.g. a Kindle). Then I'll read while I'm waiting for the kettle to boil or the tea to brew or while I'm otherwise waiting (for buses, meetings, colleagues, any down time, really). I wouldn't be able to go through the intense process described above for many texts or I wouldn't get through enough literature. (The problem with PDFs is that I can only read them on a computer, which limits when I can read them.)

I'm not a huge fan of audiobooks but I do use them when doing chores, walking, etc. I prefer podcasts or lectures for this, though. There's something about the cadence and rhythm of an audiobook—it just doesn't seem to go in the same way as reading the same text myself.

Maybe it also depends on the author? Zac Cope or another 'Western academic Marxist'? If I don't follow the annotations and marginal notes methods, above, as a minimum, I won't understand a word.

I think 'just reading' works best for me because I'm like a sponge when the stakes are low and I'm just chilling. Almost as soon as I make it 'work', when I've decided that I need to know the text inside out, it all becomes so intense that I go sloooowly and it can get quite stressful, re-reading every line to make sure I understand it perfectly (an impossible standard). I learn a lot quicker and take in a lot more if I keep it light and keep the pressure off; I can always go back in more depth later if I need to.

Hopefully this waffle is helpful! ❔❓

What are you reading theory for, DankZedong?

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for the tips I will keep them in mind.

I am re-reading theory because I am going to be a writer on the new party programme we will use for the upcoming elections. To be able to do this, I want to have a fresher understanding of Marxism again and I figured I will read (some) of the reading list that is posted here. In the past I never made notes of marxist literature and I will probably do it now. I finished reading Lenin's The Three Sources and Three Component Parts of Marxism just now and, despite it being a pretty easy work, I'm pleased with what I wrote down. I wanted to start with Marx' and Engels': Critique Of The German Ideology, Chapter I but as soon as I saw Hegel and Feuerbach mentioned, my brain made the windows shutdown noise and I figured it was time for bed lol.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

You're welcome. Hopefully some of the tips are helpful.

I remember you saying that, actually. That's a cool task to be working on. Depending on what you end up writing, you might also want to look at:

And it's a bit longer, but:

The German Ideology is good but it's a tough one! Someone kept recommending it to me so I kept trying and the first three or four times, it just went over my head and I only got a few pages in.

If you fast forward past the first section it gets significantly easier. If you try again, start at 'First premises of materialist method' and come back to 'The illusions of German ideology' when you've read the rest of Part One.

When I am reading more casually, I do not save anything, but when I am focused on actually studying, I search to see if there are any study guides online and take notes every few paragraphs. I think for everyone, there are differences in how receptive to note taking they may be, or how notes may be taken. I sometimes take notes as if I am attempting to explain a passage to someone else, and other times it is completely incoherent to both myself and anyone who reads it.

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Folks have different learning styles so it really depends. I find that giving myself an hour before bed every day to read works great.

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I might try that. Sounds peaceful

[–] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I write vague short notes in a tiny notebook as I read a physical copy of the book. I used to listen to audiobooks while reading but I found that it speeds me through the book, not giving time to reflect or reread sentences. And if I listen to the audiobook alone I start to drift off and miss a few sentences here and there.

[–] TheFinalCapitalist@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Audio book + reading same text seems genius to me, I'm going to have to try this myself. Seems easy enough to just pause audio when struck by a rough patch of theory to reread a couple times but definitely have to try this myself.

[–] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In theory it’s great, but make sure you find THE EXACT copy of audiobook, I read Critique of the Gotha Programme and the audiobook was a slightly different translation, was so annoying to read along with

Ahhh yeah i can see that being more then a lil frustrating. Tyvm for the heads up though

[–] tribunodelaplebe@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Best method for studying is writing little tests for yourself and trying to recall your lectures just like you would do in university/school. Obviously this isn't always possible due to time, so the best method I found for studying is writing down notes on a special theory notebook while I read, highlighting sections and uploading quotes to bookwyrm.

There was a method I learned when I studied History which I haven't tried with theory yet, using reading cards in which you write a synthetic version of the main arguments of a book or section you want to study.

I've been reading Lukacs recently and philosophy not being my strongsuit I've found that listening to lectures or video essays that deal with the subject are great for strengthening what i've already read trough.

[–] pancake@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use the same method that used to work for me at university: gulping down the whole thing quickly and then looking for things I might not have understood. With enough coffee/stims, the second part is not necessary lol.

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately battling several problematic period with stims make that impossible for me 🤷

I can do coffee though

[–] pancake@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hope you're good now. Never had trouble with them, but did with other stuff, so I'm much more careful now. Coffee is tasty too :)

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