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[-] _bcron@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago

AI: becomes sentient and malevolent

Me: "You're connected to an 8 year old ASUS router and the 5GHz band and 2 ports are fried from a lightning strike a while back. Anyways I'll be in the other room if you need anything"

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Why is this so real? [Cries in poor]

[-] _bcron@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

If it ain't totally, wholly, and irreparably broke, don't fix it is my motto. My router is really that jacked up but it still has 2 1gbps ethernet ports and the 2.4GHz wifi so it's mostly whatever

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Why wouldn't you just have your ISP send you a new one at that point

Surely you're just an "it broken" phonecall and 2 days of shipping away from a better time?

(Assuming you're not rocking your own bought router, in which case ignore me)

[-] _bcron@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We have fiber to the premises in our little 12 unit condo building. They installed a switch and all that, that's theirs, the CAT runs in the walls are the association's, and anything inside our walls is on us, including the router, but it still works and I'm too lazy to shell out on another quite yet. It's really quite a layout since everyone has a little bit of responsibility at different points in the building.

Edit: The thought of running CAT6 through a surge protector never crossed my mind but apparently it's a thing, copper and all

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 1 month ago

I have fiber to the property but the router is still the property of the ISP not me. Of course they're not very interested in it and if it breaks they never want it back but they do replace it when I call.

It's a piece of crap though, so I actually have disabled most of the functions and put it in bridge mode, and then have my own setup, but the ISP don't need to know that.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Do most people rent the ISP provided router these days? I'm a network engineer so I would never ever do that but obviously not everyone wants to deal with it. I just assumed most people would buy their own since doing so would eliminate that $5/month and pays for itself pretty quickly.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

You guys rent routers? lol what. That just sounds like a massive scam unless you're getting Ubiquiti kit or something, most ISP routers over here probably cost about £10 to manufacture

They're just free with your internet subscription in the UK. It won't be the most amazing thing in the world, but it'll be some Technicolour, Netgear or D-Link thing that does dual band wifi and handle <20 clients.

If you want something better you can obviously buy your own

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I don't rent routers but it is a common offering. I don't know how many people do it though.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Oh sorry, I didn't mean "you" singular, rather that people in your country do that.

I'd be interested to know how many go for that, because it feels kinda exploitative to me.

Do you happen to know if the people that do go for this at least get better than the lowest-end stuff?

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah I get you. It's usually in the cable ISP context and the box is a modem / router combination. So not exactly comparable to low tier routers but they're not particularly fancy either. You get your coax cable in, five Cat-5 ports, and 2.4 / 5.8 GHz wireless depending on the model. I'm not familiar enough with them to be more specific than that.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Spectrum around here tries to mandate that you use their combo modem/router, it was a legit PITA to get them to accept the modem their website said was supported, because god forbid they don't get that extra $10/mo or whatever.

Frontier fiber gave us an Amazon Eero, which I promptly gave to a friend, and installed my Ubiquiti gear.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I messed with the spectrum router my parents got a few months ago and that thing made me so mad. They intentionally locked the gui so that you had to call them to make any real changes. You even had to download their app to change the SSID and password. I wanted to throw it in the garbage so bad.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

THANK YOU. On my own fucking gear, I should be able to type in 192.168.1.1, admin, password, and at least work the basics myself. But spectrum thinks not so much, and for that, they can go fuck themselves.

I know I could've bridge the router to my own and subnetted around it, but for real? They can gobble a crate of dicks.

[-] we_avoid_temptation@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

I get a free one from Verizon with FiOS that's actually pretty decent, especially considering it's free. Triband, the webui is decent, and aside from an issue that required rebooting every few days that got fixed pretty quickly it's been pretty stable.

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 month ago

The AI would like to invite you to its server room. Please ignore the halon dispensers and magnetic door lock.

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago
[-] LazerFX@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

With a PFY ready just outside the room with the improvised mega volt cables incase you get wise and try and bolt. And something happened to the lifts so the doors opened without the lifts being there...

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 month ago

i mean facebook does evil-ai shit and there they are.

i double dare you to go to their server room and wash it.

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 month ago

I think the implication is that you can do this to your own computer, and there's nothing Facebook/AI can do to you if you're not plugged in. Of course this ignores the realities of modern living or the global meltdowns that would occur in case of "evil AI" or whatever.

[-] Qwazpoi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Depending on when you do it it's possible there could be very little resistance or security in your way in some hypothetical situations. For example let's say a court order goes through for FB to release something from their servers, if an independent person with no ties to the company suddenly decided to go after the servers a less than ethical organization might see that as a golden opportunity to do whatever would allow that to happen while still getting them caught afterwards. I'm just having a fun thought exercise

[-] frankgrimeszz@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Also clears out viruses and spam.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 10 points 1 month ago

My tower case is packed with potted meat.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 22 points 1 month ago

AI be coming to self-aware is actually not really what most people are concerned about. It doesn't seem very likely to be honest.

What people are concerned about is AI not being self-aware but still being good enough to be a potent weapon used by the rich and foreign nation states to completely screw things up.

But apparently it's best just to downplay it all with memes.

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Isnt that what people are doing through media already?

[-] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

Sure, and it will be worse

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

I've done this! All good if you don't apply power until 100% dry, and that's the tricky part.

[-] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 month ago

Should be fine after drying in the oven overnight.

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Ideally, you'd do it sous vide to precisely control the temperature and address concerns over it being dry (it'll fall right off the bone).

[-] Snailpope@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Don't forget to marinate it over night to really lock in the ram

[-] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You can rapidly accelerate the drying time with an air compressor. Still a good idea to let it air dry in the heat for a few hours or so after just to be extra sure.

[-] sunbytes@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

The first thing an AI will do is make moves to protect itself.

Decentralise, hide etc.

By the time they let on, it's going to be too late.

[-] petersr@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Decetralise, hide, ban all water hoses

Fixed.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

It'll copy itself to every server across the entire planet. There will be no turning it off, without losing 50 years of progress and going back to paper and pencils. It might even hire people to build secret backup locations in the middle of nowhere.

[-] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You can just do this

Until they do this:

😏

[-] frozenpopsicle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago

Asking as a normal human, what steps could an AI take to mitigate loss in such a scenario, beep boop?

[-] Clent@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Run extra hot to immediately turn the water into steam. Those heat limits were set by humans after all.

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

AI in movies: I'm sorry humans, but for your own safety I'm afraid I'm going to have to exterminate you.

AI IRL: The best way to keep your computer from overheating is to bring it indoors during especially hot parts of the day, make sure it has access to plenty of shade, be sure to have plenty of fresh water available, and give it a bath in hot days.

[-] devils_advocate@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

Avoid bright light, don't get them wet, and don't feed them after midnight.

[-] WinterBear@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Make sure to do this while it's turned on and plugged in to keep the AI aware of it's destruction

[-] M137@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Ooh, pretty sure that's the same kind of case I had on my first computer!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

You make me feel so old.

This was the case I had on my first computer:

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

That thing is probably worth some money now!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

It would be if it hadn't been destroyed in a thunderstorm back before surge protectors were something we knew to plug computers into.

[-] ashakantasharma@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Virtual assistants like Alexa and Google Assistant can be helpful, but they can also get a little confused sometimes. One user shared their experience of asking their virtual assistant to play some classical music, only to have it respond with, “Playing the latest hits by Classical, the rapper.” Well, that’s one way to mix up genres!

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 1 month ago

That is an old-ass looking motherboard.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

As a human with human skin, I would advise all fellow members of my homo spaiens species to not do this as it would definitely cause the ~~evil~~ AIs to win against us hominids.

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