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Steam Deck

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To be clear, while the article says this is "official support", this is only drivers provided by valve.

Per valve:

We are providing these resources as is and are unfortunately unable to offer 'Windows on Deck' support.

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[–] Muffi@programming.dev 184 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Great! Like installing square wheels on my bike

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 15 points 3 months ago

Minecraft players in en shambles right now.

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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 78 points 3 months ago

I'd rather have SteamOS officially support more devices including desktop. Good on Valve for giving people options though.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 63 points 3 months ago
[–] soulsource@discuss.tchncs.de 61 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I would rather trust GamingOnLinux here:

While it is not in any way officially supported by Valve, they have now released Windows drivers for the newer Steam Deck OLED model.

(emphasis mine)

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 months ago

Yeah, that is a good point to make.

Main reason I linked the steamdeckhq coverage is because they covered it last night, where gamingonlinux didn't have any coverage of it until a few hours ago.

[–] nobody158@sh.itjust.works 57 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Cool but also meh, I really like steams and have had 0 issues getting games to play.

[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It's a great option for people who wants to play those games where the anti cheat system doesn't support Linux

[–] YourPrivatHater@ani.social 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

The assholes with that anticheat need to be pressured to do Linux support properly, not people that run after them!

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[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 45 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Blech! Why would somebody sully such a wonderful device with a piss patty OS?

[–] Reawake9179@lemmy.kde.social 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I could imagine that games with invasive anti cheats are a reason.

As someone who played a couple, i just stopped playing them.

I'm a little sad they did this, i hoped that the pressure on the game devs would rise so they support Linux, oh well.

[–] andreluis034@bookwormstory.social 15 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Personally, I think this is great because I can now use my game pass subscription on the steam deck, I know I could use the cloud functionality on steamos, but it is not the same.

This limitation made be realize the vendor lock-in that game pass is, sure it provides awesome value, but forces you to have windows or buy an Xbox.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why did you subscribe to services you couldn't use?

[–] andreluis034@bookwormstory.social 10 points 3 months ago

I only bought a steam deck recently, when I subscribed for 3 years, I mostly gamed on Windows or on my Xbox.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 4 points 3 months ago

True, still a little salty I had to cancel the subscription, I genuinely liked it. But I'm not installing Windows.

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 41 points 3 months ago
[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I’ve used the ASUS ROG Ally and I do not recommend running Windows on anything, let alone a handheld. Don’t tarnish your Steam Deck with this!

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[–] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 months ago

Good news, Lemmy! You will no longer be forced by big tech corporations to run uh... [checks notes] a version of Linux on your Steam Deck anymore!

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 31 points 3 months ago

Uhhh...well. that's...um. sure. Someone could do that.

[–] Stampela@startrek.website 30 points 3 months ago

And then there’s me, who got a new laptop a couple of days ago after looking into things, and the pre installed Windows worked perfectly to test the hardware worked fine… before being replaced by Linux.

[–] recursive_recursion@programming.dev 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

who would use it when Linux just works in addition to Microsoft's continued enshitification of Windows?

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The only reason to use Windows over Linux is compatibility with certain games (or even applications). Also the price of the device is pretty low. That means people who are interested into handheld PCs who want to use it as a sort of laptop for cheap and don't care about Linux, can still install Windows on it. I'm not recommending it, but I'm glad people have this option and Valve is not actively trying to stop people (unlike other companies).

[–] embed_me@programming.dev 10 points 3 months ago

Yeah I'm sure they have their reasons but if it were up to me I would never allocate resources for that.

"Let it rot and fester somewhere else"

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Some games have security software that requires Windows. Destiny 2 for example.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, at least for me the solution is simple: don't buy those games.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (5 children)
[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

On the 1st page I found exactly one game that I'd maybe want to play, but not like I couldn't live without it. None on page 2 and one game again on page 3. Every single game I wanted to play on the Deck works (true, some of them needed some tinkering).

Remember, I said the solution is simple for me. Generally the games that don't work are not really my cup of tea, like online games and generally stuff that's more cash-grab than a game. There are few games that would make me consider getting Windows to play, but luckily all of those work well. I still wouldn't install Windows on the Deck, though, I'd probably stream it from some PC.

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Good to have the option, but probably only worth it if you play anti cheat infested games or subscribe to game pass. I'll stick with the OS optimised for the hardware

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[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 21 points 3 months ago

What if I told you, you can pay money for spyware

[–] YourPrivatHater@ani.social 20 points 3 months ago
[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 3 months ago

Wow! This is worthless!

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Geez why are some people so ready to install malware.

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 3 points 3 months ago

If you can get Rocksmith 2014 running without ear piercing screeching or extreme audio latency then by all means.

Until then, it's a good thing people have more options, even if it's not a great one.

[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 13 points 3 months ago

"I see youre trying to shutdown your computer. Would you like to buy more OneDrive storage?"

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 13 points 3 months ago

No thanks 🤮

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's a bit late. The original Steam Deck had drivers for Windows too. But is this really "official support"? I mean Valve gives no guarantees that Windows will work fine. Valve gives the drivers away, so people can do whatever they want, but makes no promise and do not support it officially on their website. So I'm a bit confused by the terminology. Maybe its still too early in the morning...

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah calling this official support isn't quite what is actually happening. "Windows works now on the SteamDeck OLED" on the other hand doesn't generate as many clicks...

[–] tombruzzo@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Valve are working on getting SteamOS to work on the ROG Ally X so maybe they're doing this to help get SteamOS to work on windows first handhelds and make it work better across the 3rd party handheld landscape.

Like you've got to take two steps back to take a step forward

[–] nous@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago

I don't see why this would help. More likely there are two different teams/people working on either side separately from each other. I bet the windows work involves a lot more work on Microsoft's or the chip manufacturer's side than valves.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Weird that the drivers are that dramatically different for the OLED version.

The standard Steam Deck Windows drivers have been out for ages, I have a Win11 external SSD and it works fine.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Weird that the drivers are that dramatically different for the OLED version.

The WiFi and BT modules are completely different (the OLED's product page says this since the announcement), hence new drivers required.

[–] dosse91@lemmy.trippy.pizza 9 points 3 months ago

Fortnite OS

[–] LexGear@mastodon.gamedev.place 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Some games have security software that requires Windows. Destiny 2 for example.

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[–] riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago

So now you can play fortnite on the steam deck. I like to think valve did this just to mess with epic.

Also... Photoshop I guess?

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