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[-] Chozo@fedia.io 180 points 2 months ago

I mentioned this in another thread, but this only applies to their "Team Pixel" ambassador program. Those aren't actual reviewers, they're contracted by Google's PR firm, specifically to promote their product line. They're not coming after MKBHD and the likes with this. This is just part of their sponsorship agreement.

Worst case scenario in this situation is a few lifestyle vloggers will stop getting free phones.

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 2 months ago

The second half of the article goes into that a bit. Seems like some reviewers were also grouped into that program before, and the terms weren't like this before.

The Verge spoke with other independent reviewers and freelance tech journalists who say that they were grouped into the Team Pixel program for review units in the past. For those in the latter group, the new stipulation is a threat to their integrity and livelihood. Matlock says he’s since quit the Team Pixel program over the new terms.

YouTuber Kevin Nether, who runs The Tech Ninja channel, also says the clause led him to quit the Team Pixel program. “As someone who reviews technology for a living, I work with many brands. To be cornered into using one product — that doesn’t work for me, and that’s nothing I want to participate in.”

Nether echoes that he’s never seen this kind of stipulation in previous Team Pixel surveys. Usually, he says, the survey gauges a creator’s interest in various topics, like sports or fashion, to identify areas for collaboration. In the past, he says he’s made it clear to Team Pixel representatives that outside an obligatory post, he will review the device as normal. Nether also says this exclusivity term is atypical. Usually, when brands demand exclusivity from creators or brand ambassadors, they’ll offer payment, have clear disclosure rules, and have limited timelines.

Either Google changed the focus of the program, or the intent wasn't clear enough in previous years

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 17 points 2 months ago

Either Google changed the focus of the program, or the intent wasn't clear enough in previous years

I dunno, I got invited to it and I read through the application forms, which looked very similar to the ones they're posting screenshots of now. Back when I first looked at it a few years ago, it seemed pretty clear that the whole deal was "we'll give you free phones if you advertise us to your community". The application process focused very heavily on determining what sort of following the applicant has, how receptive they are to calls to action, etc.

As far as I can tell, the only thing that's changed is that Google is saying the quiet part out loud, which I would imagine is because a member likely bad-mouthed the product and raised a stink about getting cut off from the freebies. Not to sound victim-blamey, but if anybody in this programed was disillusioned into thinking it was anything short of "be our unpaid advertising monkeys", then they must not have even taken a cursory glance at the description before signing up.

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 months ago

Thank you for sharing that information.

Then it really does seems like some reviewers were just entering the grey zone willingly, to get phones intended for advertisements and used them for reviews anyway.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 months ago

Click bait title for sure.

[-] nebulaone@lemmy.world 104 points 2 months ago

The only reason I am buying Pixel devices is the amazing third party os / rom support (especially GrapheneOS).

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 months ago

Same. I don't care about the camera or AI features, the speakers could be louder, and a few other nitpicks, but it supports GrapheneOS, has a long SW support cycle, and has some great security hardware, so I bought one. I actually kind of prefer my older, crappy Moto phone in some ways, but I'm unwilling to use an insecure device, and ROMs aren't supported (well, I guess I could sign an abusive agreement).

So yeah, Pixel wins for me because of GOS and longer SW support. That's honestly it.

[-] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago

You could try the fairphone

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[-] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 months ago

Could give the fairphone a try

[-] nebulaone@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Too expensive for the hardware provided in my opinion.

[-] Krzd@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

You definitely pay a premium for repairability and ethics, but IMO it's worth it. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago

For many, but I already know how to fix my phones and have all the equipment to do it. Plus, re0airabilith is slowly starting to leech back into the market by means of being forced into it by the government.

Personally, I just want my damned microsd card slots back. I've been a samsung note fan for ages because I like the s pen. I'm currently using the last one made with a card slot. The n 20 ultra.

HTC just came back from the android grave and released a nice mid tier phone with a headphone jack and an SD card slot for just $600, but im not ready to give up my s-pen yet. My phone will still be plenty good for the next couple of years, and I'm hoping a company like HTC makes a successful comeback with card slots. I'm more willing to give up my s pen than give up my storage slot.

[-] Krzd@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

The fp5 has a SD-Slot btw.

But yeah, I'm also hoping for more repairability in phones, however if you want to buy a new one in the next 2 years I seriously doubt that major manufacturers will have DIY repairable phones by then.

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[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 67 points 2 months ago

The Option to install Graphene OS onto the Pixel do be a very good argument for it.

[-] MediaSensationalism@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I'll always be distrustful of Google hardware, but yes. I've been considering a Pixel as my next.

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[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 59 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Tech reviews are a corrupt mess and can seldom be trusted, especially reviews by "influencers".

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Also these days it's all about rushing content and pandering to the lowest common denominator. Though pop tech channels were always this way. I stumbled on Unbox Therapy lately and it's so blatant that it almost feels illegal.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 54 points 2 months ago

When is the industry going to recognize that the camera needs to be flush with the back?

This is ridiculous

[-] bradbeattie@lemmy.ca 35 points 2 months ago

If the camera really does need to be that thick for lens reasons, couldn't we at least make the rest of the body bigger with more battery?

[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yes, but then it would be slightly heavier and have way too good of a battery life, reducing power bank sales and having the phone last longer without needing to be replaced due to battery degradation.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Mine does that when I put a cover on my phone.

The cover is on the same level as the camera as there's a cutout on that bit.

[-] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Your cover increases battery life?

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[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago

Literally nobody who cares about their phone is rawdogging it. It's a perfectly sane design assuming there will be a case.

[-] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 2 months ago

I wish I didn't have to put a case on my phone

[-] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Why? It's better to have the part most likely to suffer damage also be replaceable

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[-] fury@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Give it a few more years. At this rate, by 2028, the entire back of the phone will be camera bump and you'll be able to lay it down on a flat surface at last.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 2 months ago

Also, fingerprint scanners don't belong behind the screen.

Unless you have the greasiest fingers of anyone who ever lived, they just don't work. I have to lick my fingers to make it see them...

[-] odelik@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago

As my grandmother used to tell me, "Your hands are dry, go lotion them up sonny."

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And from that point on, Granny never did question why lil' Petey bought lube by the 55gal drum load.

At least his hands, amongst other things, were soft and well moisturized.

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[-] db2@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago

Hey Google, this makes me not want a Pixel. I will however accept a large $um to cea$e $haring that $entiment.

[-] Ilandar@aussie.zone 18 points 2 months ago

I don't like that this is the way things are (in relation to influencers) but it seems reasonable to me that if you sign up to shill for a company, you should be expected to shill for the company.

[-] rollerbang@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

While this is true it should come with the caveat that it is basically reduced to... Advertising.

[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago

Wow those camera bumps look so ugly. They had a nice look in the previous generations

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 months ago

I have the 8 and I find it so frustrating. It makes the phone uncomfortable to hold and pocket

[-] pdxfed@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I hate the bumps. The camera in the 4a/5 generation was fine. Hate the new look and feel but had to upgrade because of security updates and not wanting to custom rom because I value NFC payments too much.

[-] dgriffith@aussie.zone 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I hate the camera bumps. Just make the entire phone the same thickness and - hey! This is crazy, but maybe then you could then add a bit more structural integrity and put a bigger battery and a SD card slot and a headphone jack in there as well.

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[-] scrion@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Do you use the phone without a protective case? I find that most cases are designed so that the bump is flush with the back of the case.

That being said, I prefer thicker cases like the Otterbox oder Spigen Tough whatever series, so I could see how such a case would be "too much" for someone.

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

Every phone I use a case. And every case I use, any camera is at least slightly recessed to protect the lens.

I've never given the slightest crap about bumps because its going in a case, and the only people I know who don't use a case are the same people walking around with broken screens and lenses.

So I've never understood any review about how a phone looks without a case. That said, I also like 3.5mm jacks, SD cards for expansion, and replaceable batteries. I don't care about shaving 1mm off the thickness, 1/8th of an ounce of weight, or any of that nonsense.

I hate what Steve Jobs has done to technology (and the world, considering what a piece of total garbage he was as a person and how many people idolize that d-bag).

Anyway. /rant.

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[-] bokherif@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

$1k for a Tensor chip? Hell naw

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 9 points 2 months ago

Content Creators.... Aren't all of those sucking Googles tits by spending their lives on YouTube anyway?

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[-] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

Very relevant

Also that whole channel is hilarious

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[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

American Fair phone users, how's your experience?

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