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Lefty Memes
An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.
Serious posts, news, and discussion go in c/Socialism.
If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.
Please don't forget to help keep this community clean by reporting rule violations, updooting good contributions and downdooting those of low-quality!
Rules
0. Only post socialist memes
That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)
1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here
Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.
2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such
That means condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.
3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.
That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).
4. No Bigotry.
The only dangerous minority is the rich.
5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.
We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.
(if you are reading the rules to apply for modding this community, mention "Mantic Minotaur" when answering question 2)
6. Don't idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.
Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.
- Absolutely no posts or comments meant to relativize(/apologize for), advocate, promote or defend:
- Racism
- Sexism
- Queerphobia
- Ableism
- Classism
- Rape or assault
- Genocide/ethnic cleansing or (mass) deportations
- Fascism
- (National) chauvinism
- Orientalism
- Colonialism or Imperialism (and their neo- counterparts)
- Zionism
- Religious fundamentalism of any kind
"Hitler was a socialist! It was in the name!" "China is communist! It's in the name!" "North korea is communist! It's in the name!"
"Kamala harris is a communist! She is with the democratic party, but that does not mean she is one. 🤡" "Trumps wouldbe-assassin was not a republican. He might be registered as such, but that does not suit my agenda 🤡." "Everything i read or hear, i see as fact or not based on what helps me most 🤡"
These people are absolute fucking clowns and it's impossible to talk or argue with them because they are not grounded in reality. It is exhausting.
"Cheesecake is cake! It's in the name!"
Cheesecake is not cake? Have i been living in a lie my entire life?
It's a pie and/or tart. I'm sorry to have to tell you this and strip more of your innocence away.
Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Every word.
Oh yeah. Then why kamala be dum?
Stupid lib
Man, I had to check your post history to know you were messin' with me. Your conservative impression is spot on.
Infamous liberal
Adolf Hitler
So...half the conservative base agrees with a librul?
Their opinions on reality are not consistent. They will warp their minds into whatever twisted shape is required if they get to hurt the "other" (whoever that happens to be this cycle)
"everyone I don't like is a liberal"
I wonder why they put Hitler on the list then.
They love pretending loke Hitler, the universal symbol for evil, was a socialist. They fuckin’ love fascism and everything he did but they have to pretend like what they’re doing is different.
They also have no idea what “liberal” means, but that’s the case with most words exceeding six letters.
He was a filthy painter, that's why. Now, if he had painted with a gun...
Liberal arts?
#COMMUNIST
Hussein. 😪
They just love saying Obama's middle name like it's some kind of gotcha. What they don't seem to get is it doesn't mean anything unless you're a racist piece of shit.
Barack Obama is clearly the cousin of Saddam Hussein, the 20th hijacker on 9/11.
Hahah - I thought this was a joke, I can’t believe it’s a real thing. It reads like an angry fundie 14yo wrote it.
Every single republican is also a liberal. It's the dominant ideology of capitalism and its state.
The difference is that the liberalism of republicans is more "classic" in that it's heavily mixed with racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia, classism, etc.
even they should know the difference between librul and commie, right?
They literally don't
No, liberal, commie, fascist, are all just interchangeable terms for "people I don't like"
Hitler was just really passionate about giving free healthcare to Jews, LGBT, intellectuals, Romani, slightly swarthy people, etc etc.
Have they listened to Bill Maher lately? I don't think he's liberal anymore.
I wouldn't be surprised if somewhere in the terms of use for that wiki that they clarify that they are not liable for any trust users put in the articles and the tagline "trustworthy encyclopedia" cannot be enforced
How is this list organized? It seems like they randomly wrote names down as it came to them.
It's a Wiki, so you can just pop in and add a bullet point however you like, assuming you have an account.
This probably was crafted by a small pool of die-hards who dropped a name on the list any time they found out someone existed who made them mad.
It's specifically Conservapedia. They once tried to make their own translation of the Bible because they thought existing ones were too liberal.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Conservapedia:The_Conservative_Bible_Project
Edit: almost forgot. The guy who runs it is the son of anti-feminist Phyllis Schlafly.
Not PZ Myers! D:
I can't believe they spelled his name right for once.
Stalin was totally a lib tho
"We can't do communism, we have to keep the state and enact a series of slow reforms. Also jail all the gays"
Eh, I dunno that I'd actually characterize him as a liberal so much as him being an authoritarian that just pushed whatever happened to serve him at any point. Kinda in the same vein of fascists not having any economic ideology, just whatever serves their ideal of the state at any given moment. So yeah, I certainly agree with your sentiment that Stalin certainly was not a communist, but more because he only cared about gaining/maintaining power rather than actually subscribing to any economic theory.
Was not expecting the abrupt pivot into barely relevant bible study.
It's an internet encyclopedia built for and by conservatives. Literally everything on there abruptly pivots to barely relevant Bible study.
You just gotta love how Richard Dawkins comes before Hitler, Stalin, and Mao...
"Yeah the guy brings facts to the table, can't have that, that's the worst, that's like worse than Hitler, man!"