The era of Google Now and Inbox was a golden era.
Going back to regular Gmail from Inbox was what finally broke my faith in Google and I was a proper fanboy too.
this post was submitted on 04 Sep 2023
274 points (95.1% liked)
Android
17682 readers
16 users here now
The new home of /r/Android on Lemmy and the Fediverse!
Android news, reviews, tips, and discussions about rooting, tutorials, and apps.
πUniversal Link: !android@lemdro.id
π‘Content Philosophy:
Content which benefits the community (news, rumours, and discussions) is generally allowed and is valued over content which benefits only the individual (technical questions, help buying/selling, rants, self-promotion, etc.) which will be removed if it's in violation of the rules.
Support, technical, or app related questions belong in: !askandroid@lemdro.id
For fresh communities, lemmy apps, and instance updates: !lemdroid@lemdro.id
π¬Matrix Chat
π°Our communities below
Rules
-
Stay on topic: All posts should be related to the Android OS or ecosystem.
-
No support questions, recommendation requests, rants, or bug reports: Posts must benefit the community rather than the individual. Please post to !askandroid@lemdro.id.
-
Describe images/videos, no memes: Please include a text description when sharing images or videos. Post memes to !androidmemes@lemdro.id.
-
No self-promotion spam: Active community members can post their apps if they answer any questions in the comments. Please do not post links to your own website, YouTube, blog content, or communities.
-
No reposts or rehosted content: Share only the original source of an article, unless it's not available in English or requires logging in (like Twitter). Avoid reposting the same topic from other sources.
-
No editorializing titles: You can add the author or website's name if helpful, but keep article titles unchanged.
-
No piracy or unverified APKs: Do not share links or direct people to pirated content or unverified APKs, which may contain malicious code.
-
No unauthorized polls, bots, or giveaways: Do not create polls, use bots, or organize giveaways without first contacting mods for approval.
-
No offensive or low-effort content: Don't post offensive or unhelpful content. Keep it civil and friendly!
-
No affiliate links: Posting affiliate links is not allowed.
Quick Links
Our Communities
- !askandroid@lemdro.id
- !androidmemes@lemdro.id
- !techkit@lemdro.id
- !google@lemdro.id
- !nothing@lemdro.id
- !googlepixel@lemdro.id
- !xiaomi@lemdro.id
- !sony@lemdro.id
- !samsung@lemdro.id
- !galaxywatch@lemdro.id
- !oneplus@lemdro.id
- !motorola@lemdro.id
- !meta@lemdro.id
- !apple@lemdro.id
- !microsoft@lemdro.id
- !chatgpt@lemdro.id
- !bing@lemdro.id
- !reddit@lemdro.id
Lemmy App List
Chat and More
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
I have a very similar story. I was the most Google centric person I know in 2014 and 2015. I grew disillusioned after they killed Inbox. I realized that tech doesn't always get better with time. Sometimes the money motive leads to tech actively getting worse for users
It's years later and they still haven't incorporated inbox features into Gmail like they said they would and probably never will
There's no money behind it, partially because there's no real competition pushing them to provide a better experience. Plus, anything that saves time with email actually has a perverse financial disincentive. It means less time viewing the Promotions tab in Gmail. Inbox was the last gasp of innovation for its own sake at Google.
Well joke's on them as now I find my email experience so unbearable I barely open it at the cost of missing important stuff :p
I miss those features so much - I was also one who had the Googlillusion shattered by the discontinuation of Inbox.
Me waiting for Inbox features to be incorporated into Gmail:
For me it was Google reader. And after that when they killed wave
Not to be dramatic but same. For me it was Now, Inbox, then Play Music; the last being the final straw. The replacements for those services being notably worse showed they donβt give two shits about the end user experience. And donβt get me started on the messaging debacle.
Play Music was brilliant. Now we have that POS named YouTube Music that is impossible to manage your songs, because that turd mixes songs with regular YouTube videos and playlists that have nothing to do with music.
I have Tidal now, way better than anything else. Screw.you, Google.
Play Music pulled me away from my alternative sources of music. I used to keep a gigantic library of acquired music. I'm going back to old means now that YouTube music seems to be going down weird routes and adding functions that absolutely do not benefit me. Samples and comments? No thanks.
Only thing keeping me subscribed is YouTube premium. I watch a lot of YouTube content.
Annoying yes but at least these days there's one check box in the settings that turns off the connection between likes in YouTube and YouTube music.
Yes, since Play Music went down I switched to Spotify. Not really happy either but the best alternative for the moment IMO. Also slowly migrating my email to proton.
Now, Inbox, Reader and Play Music. Not that it was available in my country, but I think Google fibre was around the same time. I guess you could throw Google Chrome pulling internet standards forward rather than regressing them, into that box too.
Google was really on to a run of genuine winners at that point, weren't they? It's kinda a shame to see that all of the replacements really still are several steps behind what we had.
I know now that this trajectory almost seems inevitable for any big tech company now, but imagine where we would be now if Google had kept making genuinely good products and improvements.
Inbox was great, at least for my personal use. I'm not sure how much I would've liked at as a work email client, Gmail would probably have been better, but inbox seemed to 'just work' for my personal email needs. Felt so bad going back to Gmail. And Gmail still sucks just as bad several years later.
Same story here. I'll never understand why they canned Inbox when it was clearly superior to vanilla Gmail.
Having worked in corporate America for some time now, I would guess it was 95% internal politics. Whoever ran the inbox team didn't play the game right.
Was Google Now even usable outside the US? I remember it was pretty useless for my use case scenario back in the days... But I used the dumbed out version on iOS though.
What was the experience with Android phones outside the US?
It was genuinely useful (the update cards for appointments or travel were brilliant), didn't get in the way and wasn't infested with "news". I say "news" when I mean rage/clickbait and adverts.
It was too effective at helping us use our phones less, which means fewer ads viewed. Some functionality such as the commute time cards came back, but it not nearly as effective fashion. And nothing has really replicated now on tap's abilities.
I was genuinely impressed with google now. Wether the complaints about it being to intrusive, or just lack ad revenue killed it. But for a short time my life was really improved by this service running on my phone.
I've learned my lesson before. Google products don't last, so I prefer to not get used to them at all. I'm only slightly confident in the search engine and the mail existing. Although not sure in what form.
With how Google marched backwards on cloud storage since the turn of the decade, GMail is getting even less promising. Once my wife and I finally move out of here, I'm going 100% self hosted, setting up my own email server, et al
I work at a small company and one of my many hats is βthe only IT guyβ. I promise you, you donβt want to self host email. You will always be in spam filter hell and youβll never really know if the email you sent actually made it to the destination until itβs too late.
Buy a domain, pay for an email provider, and hook them up. If you ever get upset with your email provider, find a new one and switch out the connections. That way, your email address never changes but where itβs stored can be.
This is the way
@thanevim @dantheclamman @kubica Unfortunately, that's not something you really wanna do. Depending on your domain, it might take years before your emails stop going to the spam box.
Google On Tap was unreal, hold the button and it would recognise all the text on the screen and give you definitions and such. Only one of these type of products that got use out of me
[This comment has been deleted by an automated system]
This is Pixel launcher feature. Exclusive to Pixels but also gettable via custom ROMs. I love this feature but Pixel Launcher doesn't have good customisation features and hence I have ditched it.
I miss Google Now so much as well.
Vector art design era > Material design era
Material UI is pretty good, nothing in GNow was reliant on the UI, they could have worked just as fine with Material UI.
But the entire design language with Google Now was much brighter and colourful with vectors and shapes compared to the white space of Material
Because it was designed for very specific tasks. A specialized tool will always be better at the things it's designed for. Just like a graphics card in a computer is better at processing graphics than a general use CPU even if the CPU is running at much faster speeds.
But if you didn't care about those specific tasks or utilize those specific services, then it wasn't that useful.
A think a lot of people commute to work, take flights, have calendar appointments and reservations. Yet their new services are worse at helping me keep track of those things than something that came out years ago with simpler technology.
Yes. Shout it louder for those in the back!
Although Google's invasive nature is now pretty well known, I really liked Google Now back when it was a thing. This had everyone sideloading google launcher APKs, then later on installing rootless pixel launcher on their phones and doing all kinds of jank to get it running.
Nothing comes close to the contextual cards, traffic alerts, next public transport times, day schedule, etc. If you needed some info, chances were it was a swipe away from your homescreen already waiting for you.
I've since moved on to Niagara launcher though.
Edit: add pre-pixel launcher
Yes. Shout it louder for those in the back!
But not too loud or the wrong Google Assistant will hear it and you'll get an incoherent answer muttered from the other room about not being able to do that instead of being answered by the phone in your hand.
God that's accurate. Or how telling your phone to launch Kodi on the CCwGTV, it showing you feedback that recognizes the name (eg "Launch Kodi on Main Google TV", but still coming back with, "I can't do that"
You're just launching an Android app! Don't give me that bullshit!
Google Now was superior in every way
Wish I could still use Google now.
It's better to rely on none of these and return to AOSP stock! Reject Google!
Reminiscing how Google Now and Cortana were in their prime breaks my heart. Siri on the other hand hasnβt gotten worse from what I can tell, but whereβs the improvement?
Honestly in the Age of Enshittification Iβll settle for not getting worse, but I rather not.
I just don't understand why they removed Jen Taylor's voice from Cortana. That was... the whole point of Cortana, IMO. Without Taylor's voice model, Cortana is just another soulless, half-baked digital assistant that doesn't do what you want it to half of the time. All of the charm came from the fact that it was literally Cortana from Halo.
No assistant is best π