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I recall a regular piece of advice for software engineers: “change your job every two years.”

There’s innumerable Google results for this, even from as recently as 2022 — but none of them really seem that high-quality?

I’m really, really enjoying my current (somewhat unusual, hard-to-replicate) position; am about a year and a half into it; but I also don’t want to relax into that and have it cost me in the long-run, career advancement wise.

So, what’ve y’all been doing? Especially in the post-pandemic/fully-remote world, does that advice still apply?

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[–] holdthemayo@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

If the company offers no real growth technical, responsibility or compensation yes

[–] h_a_r_u_k_i@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

2 years are a bit extreme. I think 4-5 years is a good option. But if only if I don't like the company (culture, people, policy, etc.) or I don't see any advancement in my career.

[–] potoo22@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

If you want more money and aren't happy with your job, then yes. Look for a new position after 2 years.

If you're on the young side, you should aim for financial stability since you're starting lower. Once you get to a good place financially, then you can settle in if you find a job you like.

I'm doing well financially, with a house and decent disposal income. My current job isn't too demanding, is flexible with my time, and let's me work from home without surveillance software. I could make more money in a different job, but I feel it'll be hard to find another employer who isn't profits before employees. So I think I'm good and settled in this position.

[–] kersplort@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Job hopping at a fixed time is silly. Don't leave a situation where you're growing, getting new opportunities and doing interesting work because generalized advice on the internet told you to. Leave when you're not happy, not growing, and not getting paid what you're worth.

The timing right now isn't great either - the market is flooded with recent layoffs, and companies are trying to pick them up at a discount.

[–] einsteinx2@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

If you like your current job, don't leave. Simple as that. If you start the dislike it or feel you're not growing, then leave. It's really that simple.

[–] LogicRaven@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Don't leave a good place because of FOMO.

I have worked 5+ years at my first work place. Good WLB, growing skills, promotions, good people. Most people who left tried to come back.

Why do you think staying can cost you career advancement wise? What are your goals?

What is unusual about your current position? If your current position is very nieche or skills are not transferable, that could become a risk for your career.

[–] drdnl@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Feel like you only received half of, possible good, advice:

I used 'two years, up or out', in my career. Who cares if you work somewhere for a longer period of time as long you keep progressing in all the various metrics of career progression?

It's when things become stale that out is a good idea

[–] mrkite@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2 years seems insane to me. I wouldn't hire anyone who has a resume full of job hopping every other year.

[–] ericjmorey@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if it was a promotion every 2 years?

[–] mrkite@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You still worked for the same company... programmers job trees aren't that deep. Either you got promoted out of programming or the promotion isn't worth mentioning.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

This is pretty bad advice and I'm really surprised to see it in a community for "experienced devs".

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