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[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

So, the solution is to put Trump in office so he can carpet bomb the Gaza strip and then we just won't have to hear about Palestine anymore?

Can't commit genocide against a people who are already dead!

I don't understand the point of this cartoon.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The solution is state level electoral reform and replacing First Past The Post voting with a more representative voting system such as (but not limited to) Ranked Choice voting.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

The cartoon says none of that.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

put Trump in office so he can carpet bomb the Gaza strip

Will any Palestinians be left alive to bomb by January?

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

They're not tell you to vote for trump, they're telling you that your votes don't matter. The statue quo will not change and if settling for that is all you got then it doesn't really matter.

Also, carpet bombing gaza would be mercy compared to what the sick fuck Israeli are doing to them.

[–] CaptainKickass@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So what's your solution? Genuinely curious.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

I would repost my previous comment, but I have been banned before for spamming because I had to repeat myself to different people. Even if it's a unique comment. Even if it is highly relevant to the discussion.

So to you I would recommend you search through my comment history. I sure hope recommending people to go through my comment history isn't spamming

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Shitty as it may sound, and as broken as the US political system is, our votes do count. Just not as much as they should.

We need to vote Democrat until we have a viable option further left or that the right starts moving left to pull in voters forcing the Dems to go even further left. The more of us turn out and vote the more the Republican party is going to need to concede if they want to keep getting elected. I'm in a blue state so while my vote may not be the deciding factor I will still cast it for a left candidate so those on the right that do count the votes know that I want progressive policies and that they don't represent me.

I'd really like to see third parties focus on the local governments and build enough of a base that they can start competing at the state and national level. But sadly we aren't there yet. We need to build that local movement first before voting third party in the presidential election makes sense.

[–] sweatersocialist@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the optimistic side of me says most people know she isn't gonna do anything she promises, since that's what all politicians do, but they are voting for her anyway because she's not an old white guy and wont do project 2025.

like, nobody can honestly be so fucking naive, so blind to history, as to think any of these establishment vampires are going to keep any of their promises or help them, right? their heads can't be that far up their asses

the realistic side of me says, people have no memory and no conviction so they either do believe her or they don't give a shit because "muh lesser of two evils"

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Have you seen the "Oh great and wise Biden stepping aside. What a HERO. Putting party before country!" Posts?

As though biden didn't promise to be a one term president and then held on to his incumbancy till we couldn't have a proper Democratic primary.

[–] sweatersocialist@hexbear.net 0 points 2 months ago

lmao yeah, and then all that creepy "WE LOVE YOU JOE" signs and banners all over the DNC. and they say 'blompf has a cult of personality'. blue maga is such a joke

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

i had a similar thought when i looked through the platform from the dnc and saw that all of the promises required a filibuster proof majority.

what they're NOT saying/writing is where the devils lives:

  • kamala is going to win by a narrow margin; if she wins at all; which means that everyone else down ballot will likely fare the same; so none of that platform will become reality.

  • the democrats can change the filibuster rule at any time; but chose not to do so.

  • they're ignoring the genocide to win; but win what?

[–] Luvon@beehaw.org -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We keep voting in slim margins. If we want an effective government we actually need to fill it with enough people who will work together.

Biden barely had the senate, including independents and 2 relatively conservative dems. The house was then lost and the house then did nothing productive.

The democrats are not a unified block because we have 2 parties for way too many views.

We need to overhaul the system to actually break the 2 party hold and that can unfortunately only happen if you vote in enough people who actually take up issues like removing first past the post, the electoral college, and trying to make mail in ballots easier, pushing for ranked choice voting so people could actually vote for candidates in the order of who they actually like the most.

Luckily some of this can be done state by state so keep track of local politics. Your state politicians can also make this better.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

We need to overhaul the system to actually break the 2 party hold and that can unfortunately only happen if you vote in enough people who actually take up issues like removing first past the post

and trying to make mail in ballots easier, pushing for ranked choice voting so people could actually vote for candidates in the order of who they actually like the most.

This is possible at the state level. Federal reform is nice, but not necessary on this front. In fact, Maine and Alaska have already accomplished this. Whats the hold up in the deep blue states?

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

People idiotically think the president has unilateral power to do anything without Congress.

Morons.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Every election is influenced by First-past-the-post voting, the presidency is just the most prominent one.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

president has unilateral power to do anything without Congress

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitary_executive_theory

Sadly, this only works when a Republican is in office. As soon as a Democrat steps into office, he needs two-thirds of the House and more than sixty Senators to pass legislation that had already been successfully negotiated during the Republican term in office.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_executive_departments

None of these can do anything. Administrative law doesn't real. Agents don't have any autonomy. Cabinet secretaries don't matter. All those accrued powers from legislation like the Patriot Act and the AUMF and the Civil Rights / Voting Rights Acts and the Interstate Highways Act and No Child Left Behind and the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act just vanish in a puff of smoke when a Democrat walks into the Oval Office.

Presidents Can't Do Anything Without Congress. Even with Congress, they can barely do anything at all.

Until Trump gets back into office and then he can reach under his desk and turn off the entire democratic process with a flick of the switch, a thing Republicans can just do and nobody can stop them.