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[-] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Re-engineering our space program towards space manufacturing, mineral extraction, and building permanent residences in space sufficient enough to support the people that would be needed to build and maintain space-based infrastructure like a reflector would be an undertaking I'm not sure humanity currently has the drive for.

Science and futurism YouTuber Isaac Arthur is going to love this. Giant aluminum reflectors are a huge part of future space infrastructure and he is happy to point this out quite often.

[-] AvoidMyRage@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I believe they're trying to chemically blocking the sun (using sulfur dioxide) rather than physically blocking it.

It is obvious we're not gonna fix this by changing our habits, so I'm all for a technological solution. It will have unforeseen consequences and we will deal with those, too. Humankind is nothing but adaptable.

[-] sudo_tee@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

This is what I call a "hotfix" .

[-] luthis@lemmy.nz 7 points 1 year ago

We will do literally anything to avoid changing our ways huh

Next month:

Europe considers sacrificing babies to Satan

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I was reading about how carbon capture from the air is going to be a trillion dollar industry. Just SMH. It’s so much easier to not emit than it is to recapture. But since we’ll never get China and India off of coal, I guess we have to do something.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

But since we’ll never get China and India off of coal, I guess we have to do something.

This is a bad and uninformed take.

Per person, emissions in both China and India are still substantially lower than almost all developed countries. India’s per person emissions are less than one-quarter of the global average, and roughly one-tenth of those of the US. Close to a quarter of all carbon emissions come from manufacturing products which are exported and consumed in other countries. Textiles and clothes exported from India and south Asia account for over 4% of global emissions.
Labelling India and China as the chief villains of COP26 is a convenient narrative. The financial aid which rich countries promised yet failed to deliver as part of the Paris Agreement signed in 2015 was supposed to help developing countries dump coal for cleaner sources of energy. And while the world berated India and China for weakening the Glasgow Climate Pact’s coal resolution, few questioned the fossil fuel projects being floated in developed nations, like the UK’s Cambo oilfield and the Line 3 oil pipeline between Canada and the US.

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And that's without even going back to look at imperialism and its impacts on those countries, and why they're now having to play catch up with the west (who not only did our fair share of polluting during our own industrial revolutions, but still continue to do so pretty much freely), mostly to provide for the west.

This, like the overpopulation myth, are nothing more than racist distractions created by the rich and powerful to get us to blame "others" rather than look for who is really at fault - them (Edit to clarify: and by them I mean all obscenely rich and the governments they control, faux communists included).

[-] Erk@cdda.social 4 points 1 year ago

Whenever someone says "we'll never get China off coal" I just pretend I read "we'll never get the west off oil". Saves me a lot of irritation.

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[-] JoJo@social.fossware.space 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's difficult to get China and India off coal because they're doing most of the world's manufacturing and some processes are currently impossible without it. But 'we' exported manufacturing to Asia and 'we' buy the products the coal is used for. 'We' don't get to wriggle out of responsibility by pretending that a couple of low and middle income countries are somehow responsible for 'our' excessive consumption.

[-] schroedingershat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They're also far more "off coal" already than most of the west, and their renewable generation is growing far faster than the coal.

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[-] ZodiacSF1969@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Not emitting is not that easy. We are in a transition period at the moment. Electric vehicles are here but we don't have all the infrastructure needed to support them. Let alone the fact that battery tech is not developing as fast as we need it to.

Right now liquid fuels still have the advantage of greater energy density. If we could move to hydrogen fuels that would be cool, and we could repurpose existing petroleum facilities.

But who knows which way the tech is going to go. The only sure thing is that we are in for a wild ride one way or the other.

[-] QHC@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Western countries are just as guilty, if not more. We contributed terribly for several hundred years, and still today net carbon use is still increasing in developed countries. It's just not increasing quite as much as before.

[-] AirlineF0od@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah historically the United States has admitted the most carbon of any country to date. Other countries are having their industrial revolutions and we are hypocrites for criticizing them.

[-] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

China's usage of coal is huge, but it's proportiojn has dropped from 75+% in 1990 to around 55%. It's slow progress - it may accelerate. The problem is the rest of the world exports so much of its manufacturing requirements to China.

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[-] Aqarius@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

So we've reached "bargaining". Good to know.

[-] justdoit@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Growing evidence that governments/corporations would sooner give up seeing the goddamn sun than get off even a fraction of fossil fuel usage

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[-] Thrawne@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Wasnt this the start of Highlander 2?

[-] deus_deceptor@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You must be confused. The first Highlander movie was followed up with Highlander 3. There was no Highlander 2.

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

Will they use diamondium or diamondillium?

[-] RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

WERNSTROM!!!!!

[-] Spzi@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Won't help with ocean acidification. Stop using fossil fuels, leave it in the ground.

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[-] VidarsHand@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Has no one seen highlander 2?!

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The best part is you can dual purpose the shades to collect solar power and microwave beam it wherever you want.

[-] Tiffany@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

The Simpsons isn't just an animated sitcom. It's a documentary about the future:

[-] Hausmeister@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I knew i saw this idea somewhere. I just couldn't decide if it was futurama or the Simpson

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[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

What could ever go wrong

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
  1. Reduction of fossil fuels
  2. Literally block out the sun

we’re fucked

[-] SuiXi3D@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Even if we stopped all use of fossil fuels overnight, there’s a lot of ‘baked in’ warming. This isn’t ‘instead of’ it’s ‘in addition to’ when it comes to halting warming.

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep, it takes about 30 years to see the effects, what we're dealing with right now is the 1993 emissions, if we stopped using all fossil fuels right this instant things would continue to get worse well into the 2050s.

[-] otter_bee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Isn't this part of the plot of Snowpiercer? At least the movie.

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