Threads Enables Fediverse Replies (blog.karliner.net)

submitted 2 weeks ago by pnutzh4x0r@lemmy.ndlug.org to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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Last night Adam Mosseri, Head of Instagram, quitely announced the next step in the integration of Threads into the Fediverse. In addition to being able to follow Threads accounts from Fediverse/Mastodon accounts, we can now reply to and like Threads posts. Threads are taking a quiet, incremental approach to Federation, but seem genuinely commited.

From About Threads and the fediverse

If you turn on sharing to the fediverse, users on other servers can search for and follow your profile, view your posts, interact with your content, and share your content to anyone on or off their server. On Threads, you’ll be able to see the number of users on other servers who liked your post. You'll also be able to see and like their replies to your post.

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[-] SouthFresh@lemmy.ml 56 points 2 weeks ago

So they can reply to this:

Get the fuck out.

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 41 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck Meta. God damn cancer on society.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago

Please fediblock.

There are 200 mil. Threads users, and 10 mil. in the fediverse. Meta has been unable to meet basic federation assurances, is unable to guarantee moderation, is unable to detect and remove bots reliably, unable to guarantee basic user protections, unable to reliably detect and remove actions like doxxing, harassment, stalking, ban evasion, brigading, etc. etc.

Federating with threads means giving up on these basic protections for users and being overrun with threads users. When there is ONE instance that serves 95% of the users, federation has failed. What happens when Meta engineers start submitting pull requests to the AP protocol? What happens when they fork it to add their own "features?"

Federating with Threads is bad for the present and the future of the fediverse. We need to see more government organizations, universities, and journalists joining and spinning up instances. I want to see @POTUS@whitehouse.gov, @bucky@wisc.edu, and @AndersonCooper@cbsnews.com

[-] missingno@fedia.io 7 points 2 weeks ago

Well put. Even if we assumed Facebook had the best of intentions - which they damn well don't - it needs to be pointed out that other servers get defederated for far, far, far less than what they allow to happen on their platforms. Their moderation is abhorrent, which makes it outright unsafe to federate with them.

[-] Five@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Threads.net federation status on major Lemmy instances:

Awful.systems - Blocked
Beehaw.org - Blocked
Blahaj.zone - Blocked
DBZer0 - Blocked
Dubvee.org - Blocked
Eco.br - Blocked
Feddit.org - Blocked
Feddit.nl - Blocked
Feddit.uk - Blocked
Hexbear.net - Blocked
JLai.lu - Blocked
Leminal.space - Blocked
Lemmy.best - Blocked
Lemmy.ca - Blocked
Lemm.ee - Blocked
Lemmings.world - Blocked
Lemmyf.uk - Blocked
Lemmygrad.ml - Blocked
Lemy.lol - Blocked
Lemmy.ml - Blocked
LemmyNSFW.com - Blocked
Lemmy.one - Blocked
Lemmy.zip - Blocked
Literature.cafe - Blocked
Mander.xyz - Blocked N
Pawb.social - Blocked?
Quokk.au - Blocked
Reddthat - Blocked
Sh.Itjust.works - Blocked
SLRPNK.net - Blocked
Szmer.info - Blocked
Tchncs.de - Blocked
Aggregatet.org - Not Found
Aussie.zone - Not Found
Feddit.cl - Not Found
Feddit.it - Not Found
Futurology.today - Not Found
Infosec.pub - Not Found
Lemmy.one - Not Found
Lemmy.pt - Not Found
Midwest.social - Not Found
Monyet.cc - Not Found
RBlind.com - Not Found
SDF.org - Not Found
Lemmy.world - Linked
Sopuli.xyz - Linked

Also, in memoriam:

Feddit.ch - Blocked

[-] endofline@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Embrace, extend, extinguish. Irc ( slack ), jabber ( google talk, facebook messages, hip chat), Usenet and Google groups. Just to name few. Threads should be banned everywhere in fediverse

[-] kbal@fedia.io 14 points 2 weeks ago

According to another report:

Threads users can like the replies from other servers, but they can't yet reply to them, as the feature is still in beta and under development.

It's like they're trying to find out how slowly they can go while still convincing enough people that they're going to get there some day.

[-] kbal@fedia.io 12 points 2 weeks ago

Actually, I guess they're carefully probing to find out exactly what level of freedom they can give their users before they start losing people to the real fediverse. As soon as they find it they'll make things just slightly worse than that.

[-] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 11 points 2 weeks ago

I wonder how Facebook is going to deal with the inherent privacy flaws of federated social networks. Nobody cares about things like the GDPR or the CCPA for medium social media servers like lemmy.world or Mastodon.social, but when it comes to giants like Facebook and Tumblr things may very well become problematic. No way Facebook is going to sign a data processing agreement with a couple of thousand Fediverse servers.

Pretty cool that the Fediverse is good enough for Facebook to continue investing into it. With Threads, WordPress, and Flipboard, we may very well see more companies cross-integrate through ActivityPub in the future. I don't think Bluesky's federation model will take off, despite it being a lot better on technical level for large services than ActivityPub is.

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Really explains the state of the world where even on Lemmy you have people coming in to fight for big businesses invading our people spaces.

Our species is fucked.

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago

People not wanting to inconvenience themselves to battle climate change or the micro plastics issue wasn't a hint enough already?

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago

please google "dustin carmack" and then fediblock threads.

[-] Five@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck the Heritage Foundation.

[+] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com -22 points 2 weeks ago

coooooooool

im sure most coward instances wont see this for the benefit it could be. owell, go wall yourself off.

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Pray tell, what possible benefit can Lemmy communities gain from Facebook users?

You do realize most people who joined the Fediverse did so because Facebook and the likes are a steaming pile of shit, right?

What possible benefit is there to the pile of shit coming to splatter itself here uninvited?

[-] infeeeee@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Since I stopped using mainstream socialmedia I can't follow musicians I'm interested in. Some have a bandcamp page and rss works there, but they just upload their albums there, nothing else. At least I get notified about new releases. I tried to follow facebook and instagram pages via rss-bridge, but it's not working for years now. My selfhosted bibliogram sometimes work, but it's unmaintained so it will die at some point if instagram changes something. (I just found there is a maintained fork, yess) My ip usually gets blocked, so I get all posts once a week only in batch.

So I'm interested, unfortunately none of them enabled fedi integration yet, (afaik it's a settings for them in threads) so I'm waiting when they will enable it for everyone.

I don't want to debate about politics or whatever you are afraid of.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

Pray tell, what possible benefit can Lemmy communities gain from Facebook users?

my goal is to provide an offtramp to those stuck in facebook hell. the first step is for new users to be able to access their old friends. i am human-being centric, not knee-jerk meta-hate-centric. you do you.

lemmy desperately needs non-bot content. interaction with threads.net could add real conversations.

You do realize most people who joined the Fediverse did so because Facebook and the likes are a steaming pile of shit, right?

im not going to make assumptions on 'most users' for what is expected to be a federated service between millions of people on thousands of instances of dozens of platforms. thats just stupid.

What possible benefit is there to the pile of shit coming to splatter itself here uninvited?

im here to intercommunicate with humans, even if they are on a server run by meta. i dont give a shit about meta, its the people that matter.

[-] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 4 points 2 weeks ago

Facebook isn't joining Lemmy. Lemmy is a weird ActivityPub server, it barely works with the rest of the Fediverse because of the design of the underlying protocol. They integrate with Mastodon and other timeline based social media first and foremost.

I personally like the ability to follow people who don't know how to install Linux on Mastodon. Most servers will silence Threads anyway, so you'll only see posts from people you follow or posts retooted by people you follow.

Based on what I've seen about ActivityPub's growth, most people came to Mastodon to flee Twitter or to Lemmy/Kbin to flee Reddit. I don't think any Facebook alternatives have really taken off.

[-] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

I personally like the ability to follow people

Lemmy is more about following topics, rather than people.

[-] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 3 points 2 weeks ago

And Lemmy is completely irrelevant when it comes to Threads. There's no interaction between the two platforms.

[-] missingno@fedia.io 10 points 2 weeks ago

Even if we assumed Facebook had the best of intentions - but if you truly believe that I have a bridge to sell you - here's another perspective to consider:

Poorly moderated servers regularly get defederated for far, far, far less than what goes on on Facebook's platforms. Facebook not only platforms bigotry, they pretty much support and endorse it.