No dedicated community/magazine for Fediverse memes? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 2 weeks ago by JupiterRowland@sh.itjust.works to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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I've noticed that there isn't a single Lemmy community, Mbin magazine etc. for Fediverse memes.

Is that because 99.9% of the Threadiverse came directly from Reddit, almost all Lemmy communities and *bin magazines are outposts of subreddits, and Reddit doesn't meme the Fediverse because hardly anyone on Reddit knows the Fediverse in the first place?

Is it, in addition, because especially Lemmy is too detached from the rest of the Fediverse to know what's memeable and to really understand memes about the Fediverse outside Lemmy?

Or is it simply because Fediverse memes go into other, more general communites/magazines where they simply drown in the flood of other threads?

I mean, I barely see any memes about the Fediverse anywhere on Mastodon. That may be either because your typical Mastodonian is not cut from meme-maker wood, or your typical Mastodonian doesn't know enough about the Fediverse beyond Mastodon, or next to nobody hashtags their meme posts. so they're impossible to find.

And so I thought that this is more common in the Threadiverse, seeing as how meme-happy Reddit is.

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[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I feel like at least half of Lemmy is memes, and a good portion of those are about lemmy and the fediverse.

you're right, they aren't hashtagged.

I guess if you want to centralize them or hashtag fediverse memes specifically, you might want to start a community.

[-] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Why don't you start a community?

[-] JupiterRowland@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

No time to run and moderate it. I'm not primarily a Lemmy user, I'm mostly on Hubzilla and (streams). It can happen that I'm absent from Lemmy for weeks.

[-] ShittyKopper@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago

to be fair there isn't that much about the fedi in general that you can meme about. the closes you can get are in jokes but:

a) lemmy doesnt have them because this place is uncreative and only serves as a dumping ground from memes from other places when they aren't bickering about politics
b) in jokes of different parts of fedi do not translate well just because they share a protocol, given the extremely little overlap on people here
c) they're not really "fediverse memes" just because they happened in the fediverse, are they

[-] Microw@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago

Oh you could absolutely meme about the protocol itself and the way it is implemented. lots of potential there.

[-] ShittyKopper@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

most people on lemmy do not understand the tradeoffs both activitypub and it's implementors do, as evidenced by this exact community we're in. these memes wouldn't gain any traction even if they were funny to their intended audience (which i have doubts on if it's possible to do but idk i'm not creative enough)

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There is still some material

the latest vegan vs LW drama (as a subtopic, Rooki getting unpopular)
the media bias fact checker backlash
obvious trolls trying to get in while they stand out due to the low population
Sublinks coming out soon™
Ongoing beef with Reddit
Regular beefs between communities (e.g. !android@lemdro.id vs !android@lemmy.world )
Lemmy.ml admins powertripping when someone criticizes the CCP
Piefed almost on-par with Lemmy while being developed by a single person in a year
US people taking over entire communities because why not (!politics@lemmy.world being only US politics while the main LW admins are EU citizens)

[-] JupiterRowland@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

Here's some stuff that I'd meme about:

Mastodon users thinking the Fediverse is only Mastodon
Lemmy users thinking the Threadiverse is only Lemmy
Mastodon users thinking the Fediverse started with Mastodon
Mastodon being ridiculously underpowered in comparison to just about everything else, particularly Hubzilla and (streams)
Mastodon users wishing Mastodon (or, better yet, "the Fediverse") had certain features which are readily available just about everywhere outside of Mastodon
Mobile apps built against only Mastodon
Fediverse tools built against only Mastodon
Pleroma being lightweight
Mastodon's culture which Mastodon users are trying to force upon the rest of the Fediverse
Forkey antics such as "Speak as cat"
Forkeys in general
Forkeys inspired by Blåhaj vs Mastodon's mastodon plushie
Mastodon users still uploading videos to YouTube and not to PeerTube
Hubzilla's UI
Sharkey's infamously bad Mastodon API implementation
Friendica federating with everything, especially juxtaposed with some Mastodon users not wanting to federate with anything that isn't vanilla Mastodon
Hubzilla's ability to host Web pages
Nomadic identity
Bluesky's AT protocol seeming like a cheap knock-off of the Zot and Nomad protocols in parts
Self-proclaimed Fediverse experts who actually barely know anything about Mastodon and don't know anything about the rest of the Fediverse
Character limits
Threads perhaps wanting to EEE the Fediverse vs Mastodon actively trying to EEE the Fediverse right now
Mastodon's poster-side content warnings set in stone in what they want to be the Fediverse culture vs Friendica's, Hubzilla's, (streams)' and Forte's automated, reader-side content warnings which have been around for longer
Generally, the Fediverse being older than Mastodon
Lemmy only barely federating with everything else
/kbin essentially being dead
Permissions on Hubzilla and (streams)
"Conversations" on Mastodon vs conversations on Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams)
Certain points in the Fediverse history

Granted, I guess almost all of this will fly even over most c/Fediverse users' heads due to how detached Lemmy is from the rest of the Fediverse. But I don't really expect that many more Mastodon users to understand it, and those who do may be offended. Oh well.

[-] MHLoppy@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago

What's up with the android beef? I hadn't heard about that one 😅

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

They just coexist and don't want to merge, leading to every article getting posted twice

[-] stock@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yes I think memes can only arise when your community has enough lore and stories that people love to tell again and again. Eventually this will be the case here too !

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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 2 weeks ago

i cant imagine a stream of posts so populous it needs its own community. just tag them correctly and plop them in existent meme channels

[-] cyberic@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 weeks ago

I would check out !microblogmemes@lemmy.world

[-] JupiterRowland@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

What I meant weren't screenshots from social media that are treated like memes.

I rather meant original memes made in the Fediverse for the Fediverse, lampooning the Fediverse, parts of it or certain aspects of it. Even if they're based on existing templates, no matter how old.

Also, it'd be nice if there was a place where such memes can be posted in the first place.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 8 points 2 weeks ago

Fediverse memes can be posted anywhere, including in existing memes communities. That's where all the beans and jeans memes are.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

You missed the beans thing, then.

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[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 6 points 2 weeks ago

Most things on the Fediverse are limited by someone willing to put in the effort to make them happen. Create it, populate it with memes, and it will exist. People will still post to the larger communities though, bc they are more well-known.

[-] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 7 points 2 weeks ago

Does Reddit have a subreddit for specifically “Reddit-memes”?

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

Interestingly enough, I was thinking about it earlier today.

There is some potential for memes, especially with the latest dramas/debates on several topics, as well as the on-going feud with Reddit

Would you like to create it? I have a few ideas I could translate into memes

My best creation from a year ago: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/1868051

[-] JupiterRowland@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

I've started a new (streams) channel for Fediverse memes, but I thought Lemmy could be another, even better place to post them.

I've already posted two creations of mine there, One does not simply implement FEP-ef61 with very extensive explanations and What if I told you the Fediverse is not only Mastodon? with only one link to explain it. I'm still trying to find the right amount of explanation for an audience that shall be mostly on Mastodon.

Beyond that, I've got loads of ideas. But I don't want to post more of them here than on (streams). So I'll first have to define my way of posting them on (streams) to what will be a largely Mastodon audience in a way that satisfies Mastodon's accessibility requirements the best. I hope to speed up my meme-posting rate then.

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 2 points 2 weeks ago

At this point you might as well start the community. Stick a post up asking for other Mods to help out.

[-] JupiterRowland@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think it's wise to start a Lemmy community and then ask for other people to moderate it while being absent for weeks myself.

In case you haven't read, I'm not primarily a Lemmy user. I'm mostly on Hubzilla and second-mostly on (streams). It may actually occur that I'm not on Lemmy for multiple weeks in a row.

Also, I don't really want to take care of rules and that stuff.

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[-] NataliaTheDrowned2@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago

!fedizens@lemmy.ca has them as a feature (NOT dedicated), but theres no content like that yet