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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago

Fuckers like this make me regret my career in IT

[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Kevin, seriously, what actual value do you serve to the human race? What do you do that makes life better overall? I don’t mean new toys or new companies that produce more shit, what do you make for the average person that makes their life better? Nothing, is that answer. You had a chance way back, educational software could have been a human life changer.. but no, you couldn’t make money on it. So go fuck your self. Vafancullo

It’s time to hold idiots like this guy accountable.

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[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Up up with the workers

Yeah yeah!

Down down with the bosses

Boom boom!

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

It’s valid. I don’t check email unless I’m at work, fire me.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

Kevin O'Leary should be in a gulag.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

Two way street, right Kevin...? What an ass.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Oh that’s employees boss. We’re the majority actually. And if you stop us from organizing or voting we’re still the majority, just angrier.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

There are a lot of jobs that require out of hours support, specifically those that aren't tied to business hours. In tech at least, many of the sites and services you use are built off the backs of software engineers that are paged at 5am because latency is a little higher than normal.

I don't raise this to say that this rule is bullshit, but to say that there are a lot of arguments that will be used to push people to work longer than their allotted hours. IMO this is absolutely required, but I would go further and say that any contact outside of working hours implies a working contract, and guarantees that the employee is paid for the disruption caused. That includes on-call too, which is often unpaid.

Labor laws in the US are, frankly, hilariously bad. You deserve unlimited sick pay, at least 25 days holiday (separate from sick leave), and the removal of at-will employment. What is described here is the bare minimum of what you should have.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Hey guess what, some people have to work on weekends too. Seems like we were able to figure that one out no problem.

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[–] Nexz@feddit.nl 5 points 2 months ago

JFC, as a business owner I 100% not expect my employees to be reachable after hours. Why do these idiots don’t understand the basic principle: happy employee is productive employee. Understanding life happens and work is ‘just’ work. Give and take equally, be reasonable about stuff - basic human empathy… I hold my own personal time in high regard, it would be insane not to hold other people’s personal time in high regard too.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago
[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

But Kevin O'Leary is a very honerable man /s

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Who the fuck would call their employee after hours? In none of the places I've ever worked, would the boss even think about calling me to do something when I'm not at work. Nobody would expect me to answer. You don't need a law about basic things like that.

[–] Floon@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago (5 children)

See, you're just lucky. Many folks don't have good bosses, so a law like this is good.

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[–] slowcakes@programming.dev 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

This law isn't catered to you personally, don't you think there are bosses or work places that call their employees after hours - it's pretty common. I don't mind, but I get mails and messages after hours and just answer them.

It does effect me without me knowing in some ways, but I personally feel it's more important to help someone, that also might be stressed and decide to contact me, for some help or questions.

If the person or boss isn't an asshole I don't mind, but not everyone has that luxury, of having a boss that cares. Often they don't want to contact you after hours.

[–] blackbirdbiryani@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why I do respond sometimes out of my own convenience I'm careful to schedule the message for work hours so it's clear to people when they can expect a response.

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[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 months ago

Couple of weeks back I was on holiday in Corfu. The number work has for me - and by extension the people who I work with - is my personal phone number, for which the company pays me a small stipend every month.

I was genuinely expecting a couple of calls because that’s just how it rolls, but nope. Got nothing. It was lovely.

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